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To: Kate22;vooch;gael;great dane;leonora;JMS;getoffmylawn;saundraduffy
Go to the international war crimes tribinal site, read the indictments, read the guilty pleas, read the judgements.

Indictments and proceedings

People like you are resposible for the deaths, torture, and rape of many, you who chose to turn a blind eye, to wash your hands, just as those who ignored and denied the holocaust.

You are responsible because you did nothing and encouraged others to do nothing.

88 posted on 04/02/2002 7:22:48 PM PST by ABrit
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To: Kate22;vooch;gael;great dane;leonora;JMS;getoffmylawn;saundraduffy
Lest we forget

GENEVA (CNN) -- The U.N. refugee agency said Friday the mass exodus of ethnic Albanian refugees from Kosovo has reached "nightmare proportions," as thousands of people kept crossing into Albania, Macedonia and the Yugoslav province of Montenegro.

"The situation is absolutely dramatic, it's reaching nightmare proportions," said Judith Kumin, spokeswoman of the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees.

The UNHCR estimated that, over the past 10 days, more than 220,000 people have fled or have been expelled from the Serb province.

Thousands of refugees were transported to the Macedonian border by train or were put aboard buses and driven close to the Albanian border and then made to walk.

Some refugees told CNN correspondents they had been walking for days, with no possessions except what they could carry with them or put on a tractor-pulled carts.

The European Union's humanitarian affairs commissioner Emma Bonino, who visited the region to coordinate aid efforts, expressed shock at the "mass deportations."

"We are faced with mass deportations. These pictures of trains arriving...they are pictures straight out of 'Schindler's List'," she told a news conference in Brussels Wednesday.

Bonino also said that, "all the witness reports we do receive suggest that there are massacres going on, that people are being eliminated, that there is ethnic cleansing going on."

Yugoslav government denies massacres

The Yugoslav government of President Slobodan Milosevic has denied these allegations, saying the ethnic Albanian refugees are fleeing the fighting between government troops and the Kosovo Liberation Army, or are killed in cross fire.

According to the UNHCR, at least 120,000 refugees have fled to Albania, 70,000 to Macedonia and 31,000 to Montenegro.

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Thousands of refugees have fled to Macedonia  

The Albanian government on Friday described the situation at the main border crossing of Morina and the main reception center in Kukes as dramatic.

"In Kukes district, the situation has become absolutely critical," Information Minister Musa Ulqini said on television.

"During the night and up to now, the influx of Albanians in need of help arriving from Kosovo has been extraordinary. The situation is rapidly getting worse," Ulqini said.

Prime Minister Pandeli Majko is in contact with other countries, urging that a relief operation launched several days ago be accelerated.

Albania, Macedonia and Montenegro are among the poorest regions in Europe and have all repeatedly appealed for international aid.

CNN Correspondent Chris Burns reported Friday that thousands more refugees had crossed the border at the Morina crossing in the past hours.

Passports reportedly burned

Just across the border, blue smoke from a fire could be seen. Refugees said that this fire was the Serb authorities burning passports and identity documents that had been confiscated from ethnic Albanian refugees.

One refugee told CNN he was forced to leave his two sons behind, and a woman said she saw her sons shot and killed by Yugoslav troops.

The UNHCR said two women and two children died on arrival at another crossing point into Albania. The organization said the deaths were likely caused by exhaustion and exposure.

At Morina, nuns were handing loaves of bread to the refugees as they came across the crossing point.

The UNHCR said it and other aid agencies were distributing blankets, bread, water and juice to the masses at the Macedonian border during the night.

Thousands of refugee gathered in the Macedonian village of Blace, next to the border post, waiting for help, trying to understand what had happened to them, and where to go from here.

A total of seven trains have arrived in Blace from the Kosovo capital of Pristina in the past days, according to the UNHCR. It said one train was made up of 30 cars, packed with thousands of people who were made to walk the last few miles across the border.

While international aid is being flown in from all over the world, aid operations and their coordination will be further addressed at two international meetings involving several European nations and all major humanitarian aid organizations next week.

89 posted on 04/02/2002 8:54:08 PM PST by ABrit
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To: ABrit
I see, because we don't agree with you we're all guilty of rape and torture. As we can see from the Milosevic trial witnesses come forward with statements to the effect that "well, everyone knows..." or "I didn't see it myself but I was told..." type statements. There's a famous saying in New York, another site of Muslim terrorism, that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich. The fact that your precious international court issues sealed indictments and has standards of evidence and procedures so far from English Common Law, much less American standards of jurisprudence shows that you have no interest in justice. Rather, you're merely trying to blindly support what you've heard in the media without engaging in any critical thinking.

As for your statements regarding Draza Mihailovic and Yugoslavia as a communist country I would recommend a book called "The Rape of Serbia: The British Role in Tito's Grab for Power 1943-1944" by Michael Lees, a British Special Forces Officer who served in the Balkans during WWII. I would also suggest you view "Yugoslavia, the Avoidable War" for an objective look at the propaganda war against Yugoslavia that led to a drastic escalation of the breakup of Yugoslavia.

You have previously mentioned that the constituent republics of Yugoslavia voted to secede and therefore since this is what they wanted they were justified in simply breaking away. It's very interesting that you don't say anything about Serbs having the same rights in Bosnia-Hercegovina and Croatia where Serbs who are still alive have experienced genocide being practiced against them. If you had done a bit of research you would find that the Yugoslav constitution had provisions for secession but rather than follow them Croatia and Slovenia unilateraly declared independence, assured of Germany's support. Not only would Serbs in Croatia and later Bosnia-Hercegovina be cut off from Yugoslavia with no say in the matter, Yugoslavia, consisting of only Serbia and Montenegro, as B-H and Macedonia seceded, would have been stuck with the debts of ALL the constituent republics.

You can continue to insist on presenting the comic book view of history but you'll have to present something more credible than international court indictments.

90 posted on 04/02/2002 9:10:29 PM PST by JMS
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To: ABrit
Oh my, you actually believe what the international war crimes tribunal says, they were bought and paid for by Clinton and NATO.

You are more naive than I thought possible.

107 posted on 04/03/2002 3:19:39 PM PST by Great Dane
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