Posted on 03/30/2002 2:37:53 AM PST by vooch
Phoney Refugee Camps Found in KosovoBy William Dorich
Note: Rev. Bigler made numerous attempts to meet with Albanian officials in Kosovo but Albanians thwarted these attempts. He took video footage of his entire visit and numerous photographs.
November 23, 1998-The week before NATO was prepared to bomb the Kosovo Serbs, I had a lengthy conversation with Rev. Robert Bigler, a pastor of the First Presbyterian church of Butte, Montana. He had read some of my recent articles about Kosovo including my attack against Pastor Craig Barnes, National President of the Presbyterian Church who used their Washington DC cathedral for a Bosnian Task Force Symposium on December 6th, 1997, in which Serbs were ostracized and vilified from inside the sanctuary of this Christian church. That presentation was nationally televised on C-Span. "The truth," said Rev. Bigler, "seems to be going down a black hole-just like it did in Vietnam."
At the beginning of my interview, Pastor Bigler said he wanted to clear the air that he did not go to Kosovo in the interest of the Serbian people of Butte or for any side. "Besides, Bigler added, I am the interim pastor of the First Presbyterian Church in Butte, I am from Idaho Falls, Idaho, and I have only been in Butte since February 9th of this year-I barely know these Butte people.
Rev. Bigler is a former Army chaplain and medical specialist who served this country in Vietnam. He is no stranger to warfare and its victims, nor is he distracted by those who manipulate the facts in war to serve a political agenda. "For the sake of the integrity of my own church, I went to Kosovo to investigate the truth personally. I stopped relying on the nightly news and the media driven version of Kosovo, remember, I had firsthand experience in Vietnam, and when I read about some of the battles I witnessed with my own eyes, the news accounts were pure fiction, why should Bosnia or Kosovo be any different?"
I told Rev. Bigler that I, too, was interested in what he discovered in Kosovo, regardless if it went against my belief system and the Serbs whom I have defended for several years. I assured him that regardless of his findings, I would print his story in the American Srbobran. I am not happy that the news he brings back from Kosovo confirms my worst fears, that this is a Jihad, a religious war to create a Muslim state in Europe, regardless of how small, or at what human sacrifice.
I was granted this interview, three weeks after Rev. Bigler returned from Kosovo. I discovered an all together different Presbyterian minister than the one I had previously spoken with a month earlier. He had become a man with a cause who discovered the truth and was then victimized by the news media as we Serbs have been victimized for the past 6 years. He now refused to let the media mock what he knows to be the truth. His own local newspaper, The Montana Standard, conducted a two hour interview, promising the pastor front page headlines and a truthful presentation of what he had discovered in the Balkans. However, the article was postponed for two weeks, obviously until after the public interest in the Kosovo story had diminish and disappeared from the front pages of America's newspapers. The article written by Lorie Hutson, was an opinion piece about Kosovo peppered with enough of Bigler's remarks that it could technically qualify as an interview.
Q: What was your initial impression of Kosovo?
Bigler went on to disclose, "All of these structures were Albanian in architecture with high walls surrounding them-not out in the open like the houses of the Serbs and other ethnic minorities in Kosovo. In Pristina, a city of about 400,000, nearly all of the apartments in the 10-12 story range had satellite dishes pointing toward Albania. Where is the money coming for all of this I asked myself?"
Bigler also discovered another revelation, "By contrast, I did not find any building whatsoever taking place in the Serbian areas I had passed through or visited. In fact, Richard Holbrooke was staying at the Hyatt Hotel in Belgrade. Nearby the Hyatt are four unfinished hotels contemplated to be as large as the Hyatt, stopped in mid-construction by American sponsored sanctions, unemployment in Serbia is rampant with nearly 75% of the population out of work. How in God's name do you create peace under such deplorable conditions?"
What Rev. Bigler discovered is that the money for this building boom in Kosovo is coming from illegal activities-gun running, drugs, prostitution and the sale of arsenals stolen from the Albanian government last year, being resold to Albanian terrorists. Rev. Bigler also discovered that the 3% tax imposed by the illegal (shadow) government of Kosovo headquartered in Ulm, Germany, was no state secret. Those same Albanians in Kosovo refuse to pay their share of taxes to the Serbian government of whose nation they are citizens.
Q: Could you confirm the alleged oppression of Albanians by the Serbian government?
Q: Did you read the Albanian newspapers in Kosovo?
Q: Could you confirm that Albanians represent 1.8 million in Kosovo?
Q: Did you stop people at random and speak with them? Q: Are the Serbs in Kosovo suffering in this war?
Q: Did the Serbian government give you complete access to the people of Kosovo?
Q: Tell me about the phoney refugee camps.
Q: Was there an apparent shortage of food?
Q: We hear about the KLA walking around with weapons, what can you tell us about this?
Q: Did you feel safe? A: "The only time I was scared was when my driver took me from the Serbian Monastery of Pec to Pristina. We drove over 100 miles per hour. Keep in mind these are not Montana highways as you and I know them. The reason given was that it is much more difficult for snipers to get a good shot when you are traveling at such a high rate of speed. Notice that none of the media stories dwell on the number of Serb and Albanian victims that were killed by snipers."
Q: I understand that you were on Belgrade television?
Q: Did you meet with the Serbian Patriarch? Q: Who in the Serbian government did you meet?
When I arrived in Kosovo I had a meeting with high governmental officials in the Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija, Zoran Andjelovic, President of the Provisional Executive Council of Kosovo and members of the provincial council which consisted of two Albanians and one Turkish representative, I apologize for not remembering their names, most of the people I met gave me business cards. I also had meetings with Veljko Odalovic, head of the district of Kosovo and Metohija and Bosko Drobnjak, Provincial Information Secretary. On my return to Belgrade I met with Dr. Miroljub Jeftic, eminent expert in the field of Islam at the faculty of Political Sciences followed by a meeting with the Minister for National Minority Affairs of the Republic of Serbia, Mr. Ivan Sedlak. I also met with Tatjana Lenard, Chief Editor for Foreign Affairs for Radio/Television, Serbia, Belgrade.
An interesting side note, on my return to Butte from Kosovo I was greeted with a telephone call from the Lasiewicz Foundation of Los Angeles who then sent me 17 pages on my fax machine in an attempt to convince me that what I saw with my own eyes in Kosovo was a mirage and therefore I was encouraged to believe her propaganda. Thank you, Mr. Dorich, for informing me that she has never been to Bosnia or Kosovo and that what little humanitarian aid her foundation gave to Bosnian victims went only to non-Serbs. I believe I sensed that from her need to belittle Serbs in our conversation. I have now come to realize that the forces of Islam and the enormous resources being spent in media manipulation is behind this farce to rob the Serbian nation and her people of what is rightfully theirs."
Q: Did you meet with any foreign diplomats?
Q: Now that you have been to Kosovo what do you think is behind this NATO driven policy?
In my opinion, we seem determined to decided for the Serbian people who is qualified to run their government, then shove that decision down their throats. After we have succeeded in destroying their economy we now offer them IMF loans as the carrot at the end of our stick, knowing full well the Serbian people are no longer capable of repaying such loans in this life time or the next. Then, like we are currently doing in Brazil, we will ride in on our white horse and help them survive by buying as many of their national assets as we can get our hands on ... at 20 cents on the dollar, of course. This is truly the tail wagging the dog in our foreign policy. We have allowed the media and special interest groups to distort the truth and to portray the Serbian people as Nazis in order to steal their natural resources. I do not support the Milosevich regime, but, I am totally against achieving political goals by starving a nation of people into submission while denying them medicine and food. That, Mr. Dorich, is genocide by sanctions, and it's just as ugly as anything that was done in this war.
The Serbian government has nearly a billion dollars in frozen assets outside of their country, $600 million in the United States. My goal is to unfreeze these assets and allow the people of Serbia the human dignity of proper medical care. Before this war, Yugoslavia ranked 3rd in medical care in Europe, today they rank at the level of a 3rd world country. Serbian children have died from a simple lack of antibiotics while our elected officials preached self-determination and democracy. For the last seven years, 95% of the Serbian people have received no medical care whatsoever.
As a medical specialist, I can assure you that the Serbian people suffer from the same percentage per capita of cancer, heart disease and diabetes in their population as the population in the United States. Withholding medicine and medical care from this population for seven years has increased the rate of death from these diseases in Serbia by as much as 20%. Those who have died have suffered inconceivable deaths without traditional pain-killing drugs. This is inhuman, unacceptable and damned unchristian.
Serbian children have already been doomed to a shortened life span that may not be reversible. It is therefore my goal to organize humanitarian aid through the Presbyterian church and through other organizations to distribute aid directly into Belgrade if I have to fly the airplanes myself. I was told by numerous people in the medical system in Serbia that the limited assistance that was attempted to reach the Serbian people during the Bosnian war was pilfered at Serbia's borders by Serbia's neighbors as the United Nations and world looked away. As a Christian minister I refuse to allow people to become complacent or silence, or worse, to seek vengeance believing that Serbs deserve this kind of punishment. No society, especially the American society, can subvert our dedication to human rights by a willful lack of conscience."
Note: Rev. Bigler made numerous attempts to meet with Albanian officials in Kosovo but Albanians thwarted these attempts. He took video footage of his entire visit and numerous photographs.
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Well, I think a wet kipper around your face quite suits you
When Milosevic questioned Albanian witnesses, one man stated the whole village just up and left without ever seeing any Serb police, paramilitary, or army. They were leaving on rumors or agreements between themselves. This particular witness said his group did meet up with the Yugoslav army while already traveling and on their way. The army did NOT take any documents nor passports from the group - it advised them to move in the direction of Southern Serbia, but the Albanian group just went their own way towards Macedonia - no one forced them, no one prevented them. Probably a very common story. To look at the groups of refugees there were no black eyes, cuts, dirty clothes, bullet wounds - they mostly all had a safe and short trip to the border with Macedonia or they went to Albania or Montenegro. Some also went to Serbia.
When Afghanistan was being bombed on a scale smaller than Kosovo people pored over into Pakistan. That is what bombing does.
I rely on my eyes to note the condition of the people. I was shocked at how good they (the Albanians) looked. No way they had been wandering in the woods for weeks - let alone days. No way did they look injured. If you saw the victims of some of the ethnic cleansings in Africa - arms chopped off, machete wounds to their head, real skinny stick people, dirty, real horror in their eyes vs. people wearing jeans and pony tails, designer watches, combed hair, good coloring to their faces, etc... you'd know that those Albanian refugees looked no more beat than someone who's been out cutting their grass for and hour on a mildly warm day.
The Albanian prisoners have just about all been released from Serbia. In photos I saw they looked well-enough. And no one was walking out on crutches - unlike the Serb soldiers caught by Albanian terrorists in Southern Serbia who, when finally released - WERE WALKING OUT ON CRUTCHES WITH SEVERE INJURIES. They had been tortured with electricity, beaten contantly, and their tendons had been snapped - that's why they were on crutches. They had to be hospitalized.
Joan, you are out of your mind. Go to your cabinet and take the tablets like your doctor told you.
Joan, you need stronger medication.
Goodnight.
Now hundreds of new, nicely furnished apartments, built to the highest European standards are at the exclusive disposal of UN, EU (European Union) and NGO (Non-Governmental Organization) bureaucrats and their entourages: secretaries, clerks, mistresses, drivers, assistants of all sorts (politically correct bureaucrats do not have servants!) deputies, etcHow convenient for them.
The old tenants, Serbs and other incorrect people are cleansed by the secessionist Albanians and dispossessed by the UN and EU. What a charade. NATO is here to defend the Albanians' rights and culture (supposedly) but they don't want to live in the Albanians' orientally-set-up households - they feel better in the European homes of those dispossessed Serbs they helped drive out.
Meanwhile, in Pristina the KLA has introduced the "language police." Speaking Serbian - the language of the enemy - is strongly prohibited. Albanians have to report anyone who does so and who ever does can expect serious problems...
It is obvious why the "800,000" refugees returned......the cluster bombing stopped
Also please reconcile the fact that in 1998 some 110 civilians were killed while in the year 2000 some 246 civilians were murdered. if Blair and Clinton were telling the truth........why did the murder rate nearly triple by UNMIK's own self serving numbers ?
Thanks to the socialists Clinton-Blair.....Kosovo is now a much more dangerous place to live for anyone but a gun toting KLA fanatic. For the KLA killers such as Remi/Ceku/Harandanji/and Shala, UNMIK administered, Kosovo is now a paradise.
As for the KVM reports being falsified. The Swiss article was posted here a week or so ago. It had extensive interviews with OSCE-KVM types who said that higher ups falsified their reports. Both Wonders and Wraith had a long discussion of the subject.
He must have been talking about you,Sandnes!
You would have thought the Kosovo Albanians would be really pissed about being cluster bombed, wouldn't you?
Show me, from a reliable source, one word of complaint by the Kosovo Albanians, about the NATO bombing.
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