Posted on 03/29/2002 2:12:56 PM PST by baxter999
Let's see if I understand the Bush "strategy".
1. Lie to the American People. According to the Bush supporters President Bush is saying positive things and signing the bill even as he works behind the scenes to have the SCOTUS destroy the bill because he really hates the bill: By lying to the American people and pretending he likes the bill, he will convince more liberal voters to vote Republican this fall and then he can appoint more conservative judges. Although why the American voters would vote for the republicans because they are impressed by being lied to is beyond me.
2. Break his campaign promises. Of course Bush Senior pioneered this strategy with his "Read my lips: No New Taxes" remark. As I recall, Bush Senior won reelection in a landslide in 1992 keeping Clinton/Gore out of office. What's that you say? Clinton won? Well, maybe this time this strategy will work better.
3. Break his presidential oath to defend the Constitution. By doing this, Bush will show his support of principle- well, at least the principle of "the end justifies the means". Now where have I heard that phrase before?
4. Force conservative groups like the NRA, without whose support Bush would still be attending Texas Bar-B-Q's wearing a big hat, to spend millions trying to get a court to rule on this bill. And of course this money will not be spent on electing Republicans, but on lawyers and courts.
5. By removing the free speech of people for 60 days prior to elections, the solidly conservative press from CNN to the NY times will then be free to preach unopposed conservatism to the uneducated masses. (That Goldberg guy must be a nut to think the press has a liberal slant.)
6. Ignore the expressed wishes of the people who voted for him and over 2/3 of the Congressmen of his own party so that the liberal public will elect more conservative Congressmen (who will oppose the people's supposed wish for campaign finance reform). (Logic like that would have added at least 400 points to my SAT scores. Thank God we have intellectuals like Bush and his supporters to show us the way. Where was that pray for Bush web site again?)
So to summarize:
1. Lie to the American People
2.Break campaign promises.
3. Break his Constitutional oath.
4. Waste conservative groups money in court.
5. Allow the conservative press from CNN to the NY Times to have sole input for 2 months before the election.
6. Ignore the majority of his own party because they're all idiots anyway.
Did I leave anything out?
BUSH IS A GENIUS!
Where can I send my 2000 dollar hard-money check?
It is a document which was intended to limit to powers of the federal government. In that sense, it is not a process...it is absolute (at least in its intention). What the hell else do you think it is?
1. Bush showed me a yellow stripe. It's a game of chicked. He blinked.
2. As for the recess appointments, I'm all for it. It's a bastardly thing to do, sure. It's legal though, and constitutional as well. I call that part paybacks.
3. With CFR, once again, here comes the NRA(The REAL civil rights group) to try to save the day.
Yessir, that's correct....
I just wish that the NRA would encourage us to vote the 2nd Amendment as a litmus test, tho.
Idiot.
You are almost correct. The constitution is a model for a government that has in it safeguards to prevent any branch of government gaining supremacy over the other. The founders recognized correctly that any form of government will tend to gather power unto itself but that government was required. However they set up a mechanism that prevented centralization in any branch while at the same time giving each branch the tools required to protect itself against the other two, It is messy, contentious and the PROCESS works exactly as the founders intended. That is what protects us against the GOVERNMENT that process, not a piece of paper.
Vetoing it is political suicide? I don't think so. Vetoing this solidifies the right flank. Signing it ALIENATES the right flank.
Vetoing it would avoid a pincer attack. If SCOTUS doesn't bail out Bush(and Scotus may very well uphold the law, contrary to what several freepers think, we do not know what SCOTUS will do), he could very well have a pincer attack like his dad did in 92.
If SCOTUS knocks this down, this STILL will PO many on the right flank, and also energizes the left as they see a sign of WEAKNESS.
If I was president and had the same popularity Bush has now, I'd veto this...and that's not political suicide. That's shoring up the right flank for the 2002 midterm elections, and setting up for a 2004 win. The middle doesn't care about CFR. The MEDIA does, and the HARD RIGHT and HARD left(gun grabbers mostly) do. The gun grabbers aren't going to vote for him anyway. Screw them.
Then, you must know that the President is a moderate, not a conservative.
If the polls are accurate, then Jesse Helms would not have won election, Jim Blanchard would have beaten John Engler, Spence Abraham would have beaten Debbie Stabusall, George Bush would have cruised into a 1992 victory, Klinton would have won 1996 by 20 points(not 6), and W would have won the popular vote against Alwhore by 4 points and would have taken Michigan.
Approval ratings don't mean jack. Polls don't mean anything.
2004 will go down to the wire unless Bin Laden't head is on a platter. Count on it, no matter WHAT happens.
He flanked the lefties very well here...but left an opening in his RIGHT flank. It's small now, but in 2004, it could EASILY bite him.
Right now, my vote for him in 2004 is up for grabs. It depends on the ugly gun ban. If he reupts it, he's lost my vote. If he VETOs it, I'll probably vote for him. If it doesn't reach his desk, I don't know what I'll do.
I see 1992 all over again.
Wrong...
We are not protected from government...
That is the best you can do?
HORSE-HOCKEY!!! He is bound to protect and defend the CONSTITUTION.If you merely wanted to protect the Constitution itself, all you'd need do is put it in a vault. It is the processing of the Constitution that must be ensured.
Not the process, sir!
He is not a Spotlight or New American or Lew Rockwell, or Buchannan or Browne "conservative" if that's what you mean. He is a Reagan Conservative but you knew that already.
That is exactly what Mcain and the Democrats would have wanted to happen. That would have given them face time on the tube, Mouthing to the American people about how partisan the President is, how he does'nt want CFR, Yada, Yada, Yada.
By signing the bill and having the lawsuits filed the same day, by allowing the SCOTUS to nuke the unconstitutional parts, Bush has Nuetered the Democratic opposition. CFR is DEAD. Once SCOTUS kills the worst parts of it, Its gone, It wont come back.
This is poker player politics, and Bush just won the pot.
Bush might just be the one that free us from the currently imposed liberal enslavement of those paying taxes.
You are of course joking, right?
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