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Israeli police storm Al-Aqsa sanctuary!
Ananova ^ | 3/29/02 | Unknown

Posted on 03/29/2002 2:24:31 AM PST by Gemflint

Israeli police storm Jerusalem's most contested holy site

Israeli police have stormed into the most sensitive religious site in the Holy Land, throwing stun grenades at Palestinian rock-throwers, police said.

After Friday prayers at the Al Aqsa Mosque on the disputed hilltop in the Old City of Jerusalem, Palestinian youths started throwing rocks at Israeli police posted at a gate just outside, and at Jewish worshippers at the Western Wall below, police said.

Police stormed into the open area outside the mosque and threw stun grenades, according to a police announcement. Police said the rock-throwing was continuing, and police were on the scene.

One policeman was lightly injured by a rock, police said.

The site is known to Muslims as Haram as-Sharif, the Noble Sanctuary, which holds two large mosques. Muslims revere it as the site from where the Prophet Muhammad ascended to heaven.

Eighteen months of Palestinian-Israeli violence erupted after Ariel Sharon, now Israel's prime minister, visited the site in September 2000 to emphasize Israel's claim of sovereignty to what they call the Temple Mount. The two mosques are built atop the ruins of the biblical Jewish Temples.

Story filed: 11:05 Friday 29th March 2002


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: alaqsa; christianlist; clashofcivilizatio; deathcultivation; geopolitics; islam; israel; mosque; muslim; palestine; religion; terrorism; tinfoilhat; warlist; zionist
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Comment #181 Removed by Moderator

To: crystalk
I've read that one reason anti-Jewish rhetoric heats up in western Europe in the tenth century is that the two looked indistinguishable to barely-Christianized Europeans. Christians were drifting in and out of synagogues and churches, and the preachers started talking down Jews to stop it. That's what led in time to Christianity's sad association with anti-Jewish violence - worry that we looked too much alike. Wierd world, isn't it?
182 posted on 03/29/2002 10:48:34 AM PST by Southern Federalist
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To: RippleFire
Israeli police storm Al-Aqsa sanctuary!

I'll believe the Israelis are serious when they wheel up the HOWITZERS!

183 posted on 03/29/2002 10:51:42 AM PST by Lael
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To: Mo1
even with the majority of arab countries, we will stand behind israel in the end, at that leaves the arabs no chance at victory. the deck is stacked against them. men with a couple of mortars and machine guns will not defeat the armies of the western world. no chance.
184 posted on 03/29/2002 10:59:22 AM PST by veryconernedamerican
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To: Freetus
islam is a cult.
185 posted on 03/29/2002 11:00:14 AM PST by veryconernedamerican
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To: veryconernedamerican
Islam and Arabs, people of peace

...and rational thought and logic.....allah ahkbar

186 posted on 03/29/2002 11:05:15 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: straight1
Have anyone of you ever seen “rocks” that these youths (16, 17, 18yr old teens) throw? Living in the Old City, a stones throw (pardon the expression) from the Western Wall, I can tell you that the first time I saw them I was shocked, thinking the same as you….rocks being perhaps palm size. NO. TRY AS BIG OR BIGGER THAN BRICKS. These monsters can, and have, killed. We are talking self-defense here, folks

Straight1,

When the H*ll are you gonna wheel up the HOWITZERS?

I know, I know...how politically incorrect of me!

It's just that I get so frustrated with Sharon...I mean, that "suicide bomber" who took out that Seder...I mean adjusting for the population difference, it's like someone bombed an auditorium in the U.S. and killed 1100!

Anyway, try to have a good Pesach!! You are in our prayers!

187 posted on 03/29/2002 11:10:43 AM PST by Lael
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To: DittoJed2
AMEN
188 posted on 03/29/2002 11:19:44 AM PST by annieokie
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To: crystalk
Yes, exactly. So both Christianity and Islam, through their celebration of Jesus, are in fact are closer to true "jewish axioms" than what eventually became "rabbinic judaism." By ignoring Jesus, rabbinic judaism fails to acknowledge the greatest teacher of "jewish axioms," and in doing so, becomes less "jewish" than Christianity or Islam.
189 posted on 03/29/2002 11:22:42 AM PST by Freetus
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To: Gemflint

Who'da thunk: Jesus' Second Coming may actually happen on Easter...

While reading the post, I was thinking of how close to the brink we are! What's going to stop all of this? Someone MUST step forward to guarantee "peace" to Israel. Then we will know who the Antichrist is.

190 posted on 03/29/2002 11:23:47 AM PST by DallasDeb
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To: straight1
After Friday prayers at the Al Aqsa Mosque on the disputed hilltop in the Old City of Jerusalem, Palestinian youths started throwing rocks at Israeli police...

I wonder what people would think if it were the usual custom of Christians to run out of Sunday worship of YHWH to throw rocks and start riots. I think people would start to wonder what the heck is going in those church buildings. It sure makes me wonder what is going on in those mosques.

Cordially,

192 posted on 03/29/2002 11:29:45 AM PST by Diamond
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To: Lael
It isn't Sharon that is holding back... it is his opposition party. They have told him that to kill or exile Arafat will bring his government to an end.
193 posted on 03/29/2002 11:31:02 AM PST by carton253
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To: Freetus
Yes, thank you for that kind post,

and furthermore let me note that for 1380 years now ALL Christians, even those who were guilty of anti-semitism, have ALWAYS AGREED THAT JUDAISM IS INFINITELY PREFERABLE TO ISLAM, and it has always been taught by the Vatican that, if the last Jew were to perish, the last Christian would already have perished a moment before.

In fact, the Crusades esp. the First, killed some Jews mainly because they as non-Christian WERE CONFUSED WITH MUSLIMS, thought "infidels too" by unlettered peasants--that there was unfortunate Jewish bykill unwanted by any Christian of education or culture.

194 posted on 03/29/2002 11:31:57 AM PST by crystalk
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To: Diamond
You are so right, furthermore the Bible predicts that if these mosques fall and are cleared away, the shattering of the power of the holy people (into J and C) will also come to an end,

... so your "rioters" would be coming out of churches not on Sunday anymore, but on the Sabbath like the Jerusalem and Israeli custom is, that has SO much more soul behind it anyway...

195 posted on 03/29/2002 11:35:17 AM PST by crystalk
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To: Southern Federalist
Right there we can know that Islam and Christianity are worshipping two separate gods.

Allah does not have a Son, and YHWH DOES have a Son.

QED. Right there, they are totally different gods. Even before we get to the fact that Allah is a typical pagan hobgoblin of pre-Abrahamic semites, red in tooth and claw, demanding human and esp, child sacrifice...

196 posted on 03/29/2002 11:43:11 AM PST by crystalk
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To: texasbluebell
(unfortunately there are many more moslems than there are the rest of us).

Not correct. See this: http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

All Christians: 33% of mankind (over 2 billion); Muslims: 22% (about 1.3 billion). Next are Hindus, then secularists such as the Atheists or agnostics, then Buddhists. There are approximately 14 million Jews in the world.

Kind of makes me wonder why the Muslims are so fearful of the Jews who make up just .0031% of the world's population.

197 posted on 03/29/2002 11:51:18 AM PST by MSSC6644
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To: crystalk
Thank you for your responses. One more thing, though... could you point me to some sources for your statement that there was a "pre-rabbinic" concept of the Trinity? This seems very interesting!
198 posted on 03/29/2002 12:03:43 PM PST by Freetus
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To: crystalk
Allah does not have a Son, and YHWH DOES have a Son.

QED. Right there, they are totally different gods. Even before we get to the fact that Allah is a typical pagan hobgoblin of pre-Abrahamic semites, red in tooth and claw, demanding human and esp, child sacrifice...

I do not know what your motives are--other than that you seem enraptured with your own cant, and cannot appreciate the difference between rational theology, and the mere spouting of the unanalyzed words of others. But a lot of people in several far off lands could get killed over your sort of ex cathedra pronouncements.

The fact that two Faiths--or two denominations of a Faith--or two different scholars--or two different families--disagree over some of the characteristics of a deity, does not determine whether or not they look to the same deity. People also argue over the characteristics, beliefs and parentage of other humans. That does not determine anything other than the specifics that either or any side of any argument can demonstrate.

A week or so ago, you were advocating the destruction of a great religious site under the bizarre theory that such destruction would trigger a divine event. In that you clearly showed your personal contempt for the basic premises of all Biblically based faiths, as you were implying that a depraved human act could control the Divinity. You will not find any serious theologian who would subscribe to such view. Now, you are using a foolish, verbal argument, to make a point that is simply not true. However, Jews, Christians and Moslems--and indeed the different denominations of Jews, Christians and Moslems, even within each of the broader Faiths--differ as to the attributes and intentions of the God of Abraham, they all clearly identify the same God.

In the first instance, calling for the destruction of a religious shrine in the name of God, you were taking the name of the Lord in vain. Now you are bearing false witness. Get over what ever is tormenting you, and stop trying to urge other people to get themselves killed, because of your absurd interpretation of passages which are not a direction but a prediction, with virtually no relevance to the present cast of players.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

199 posted on 03/29/2002 12:05:17 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Mo1
Problem is it won't be just the Palestinians the Israelis will be fighting .. Majority of the Arab countries are behind the Palestinians ..

I'm not so sure about this. The other Arab nations have pretty much ignored the Palies. They don't want them and they don't want to help them, IMO. If they wanted to do so, then they could have arranged for a Palie state on Jordan's western border.

Also, the Arab nations KNOW that Israel has weapons of mass destruction that they will NEVER hesitate to use to protect themselves. I think they would even do pre-emptive strikes if the Arabs look like they are mobilizing. They could easily take out Baghdad where the real bully in all of this resides. He's been paying money to the families of suicide bombers--he recently upgraded the award to $35,000.

200 posted on 03/29/2002 12:09:23 PM PST by DallasDeb
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