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Super-Conspirators Rule World, Icke Says
The Vancouver Sun ^ | 3/26/02 | Doug Ward

Posted on 03/28/2002 11:03:29 AM PST by marshmallow

Author blames almost everything on the Illuminati, who he says want to create fascist global state  

The terrorist attacks on New York and Washington were undertaken by the Illuminati -- the human descendants of alien reptiles who want to create a global fascist state. So was Pearl Harbor, the assassination of John F. Kennedy and the death of Princess Diana. George W. Bush was a member of Yale University's secret Skull and Bones Club. So was his father, former president George Bush, and both are gofers for the Illuminati. So is British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

Welcome to Conspiracy Nation: the country of David Icke, an author and speaker who has created a lucrative global audience for himself by gathering every conspiracy theory available into one all-encompassing super-conspiracy.

In Icke's view, it's no accident that 9/11 is also the number for emergency. Numerology and ritual codes are, after all, a big part of the Illuminati's modus operandi. The Illuminati are also fond of symbols such as twin towers (read: the World Trade Center) -- a symbol that goes back to ancient times.

These were among the revelations Icke delivered to thousands of people who listened to his speeches on Saturday, Sunday and Monday at the Vancouver East Cinema.

The Canadian Jewish Congress had urged the owner of the Vancouver East cinema to cancel the appearances, fearful that Icke's "Illuminati" is code for the international Jewish conspiracy.

Most of Icke's Vancouver devotees, however, were not traditional anti-Semitic types: older rural far-right fanatics or neo-Nazi white power skinheads.

Instead, most of Icke's followers were well-educated, New Age-y, non-racists who have come to doubt the official government line. Many are readers of local New Age journals like Shared Vision and Common Ground, which advertised Icke's visit. Many share the anti-globalization, anti-corporate view of much of the political left.

However, many have adopted the conspiratorial -- almost paranoid -- perspective of the far-right.

Icke's evil-doers are also the favourite targets of the American far-right groups: the Freemasons, the Rothschilds and other Jewish banking elites, the Catholic hierarchy, the Rockefellers, the Israeli secret police, and various business and public policy think tanks and associations, including the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg meeting of international movers and shakers.

The gist of Icke's message is that the motor of history is run by small cabals of bad people.

All social conflicts -- the Second World War, the Sept. 11 attacks, you name it -- are manipulated by the Illuminati and their henchmen. George W. Bush knew the attacks were coming -- that's why he was talking to Florida school kids when they happened. U.S. military jets capable of intercepting the hijacked planes were deliberately held back so the attacks could occur and give Washington a pretext to attack Afghanistan and launch a protracted war against terrorism.

Chidakash Street attended one of Icke's five-hour sessions this weekend. He runs Serenity by the Sea, a year-round retreat on Galiano Island that offers bodywork, reiki and crystal toning. Street said he was attracted to Icke because he too had doubts about the official line on world events.

"This stuff rattles around in my brain and drives me crazy. And so along comes David Icke and he puts it all together."

Street dismissed recent charges reported in The Vancouver Sun about Icke being anti-Semitic. Street noted The Sun is owned by Southam Publications Inc. and that the Southam corporate logo -- a torch -- sometimes appears on The Sun's editorial page.

"The torch is a sign of the Illuminati," said Street, adding the torch on the Statue of Liberty in New York City was "presented by Freemasons, which is the club of the Illuminati."

Street added that "all you got to do is spend one hour on the Internet plugging in these words and seeing where it leads you and you will find that what he is putting out isn't a theory that Icke has concocted."

Patrick Coady, a vice-president of two local dot-coms, came across Icke's writings while researching reports about the CIA selling drugs in Central America.

Coady has no problem accepting the existence of the Illuminati. "The Illuminati is one term. I've also seen them referred to as the world management team. It's basically large groups of rich people, Freemasons and the Council of Rome. It's a loose term for the group that controls most of the media, most of the large transnational corporations and banks, groups that have pushed for free trade."

On Icke's view that the Illuminati descended from reptilian space aliens, Coady was more ambivalent. "But I do know that if you take a look at the bloodlines of the royalty, and the bloodlines of most of the very powerful people in business and in government around the world, they all seemed to have intermarried. They don't seem to mingle with the general population."

Heather-Anne Briton, who was attracted to Icke's speech by an ad in Common Ground, said she isn't sure if she believes all of Icke's theories, but "he does give you a wider perspective on what could be going on."

Briton added the concept of the Illuminati has credibility given the spread of globalization. "Canadians voted down free trade and we got it anyway. So there has to be something to that."

And then there's B.C. Premier Gordon Campbell. "He said that protest is part of democracy, but I think democracy is listening to what we're saying. They're suppose to listen to us, but they aren't. And so, yes, I think there is somebody else pulling the strings."

That many of Icke's local followers are liberal-minded people shaped by the '60s counter-culture is more worrisome to the Canadian Jewish Congress than if his fans were all rabid neo-Nazis.

"It's much more scary to us," said CJC vice-chair Mark Wexler. "This is a largely liberal or communitarian group seeking spiritual development and they have been led astray by Icke. The New Age approach correlates intelligence with paranoia. The idea is that on the Web there are secret bits of information and that somewhere all of these secrets come together and make sense."


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To: Howlin
What is this guy's FR nickname? This writing looks familiar!

The first thing I thought of when I read this was Michael Rivero.

41 posted on 03/28/2002 11:55:32 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: Physicist
If the Jews control Hollywood, why can't they get this guy out of the theatre?
42 posted on 03/28/2002 11:59:47 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
Oh, sure. Take DrLiberty's side in all this. But don't think we're not onto you space reptiles.
43 posted on 03/28/2002 12:04:44 PM PST by Physicist
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To: marshmallow
Frequently asked questions about the real Illuminati
44 posted on 03/28/2002 12:05:08 PM PST by KarlInOhio
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To: marshmallow
LOL......he did cross my mind, too! He'd be in HOG heaven, wouldn't he? Ah, the good old days!
45 posted on 03/28/2002 12:06:15 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Wasn't this the guy who said citrus fruit trees came to Earth from another planet, bent on world domination ? The plot failed, so goes the story, when the grapefruit could not converse with oranges, lemons, etc.

No, it was the Oaks who ignored the Maples' pleas... (grin, Rush bump)

46 posted on 03/28/2002 12:10:24 PM PST by Chemist_Geek
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To: marshmallow
This is all disinformation being put out by the conspiracy that's conspiring against conspiracies?
47 posted on 03/28/2002 12:11:52 PM PST by pt17
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To: Stand Watch Listen
I just wonder how secret it can be if it's listed on your college transcript????


48 posted on 03/28/2002 12:14:17 PM PST by Howlin
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To: DrLiberty
This guy is a disinformation agent. He mixes in truth about world events with the whole lizard thing to discredit everything. Typical disinformation agent for the NWO.

I doubt it. More likely he's just another pathethic true believer. Believing that Dubya ia a descendent of reptilian aliens is no more bizarre than thinking that Queen Elizabeth is head of the Illuminati. Its a sorry state of affairs that people's lives are so barren that they believe just crap.

49 posted on 03/28/2002 12:14:28 PM PST by Dave S
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To: marshmallow
In Icke's view, it's no accident that 9/11 is also the number for emergency.

So, according to this guy, the UK can expect attacks on January 23 or December 3? IIRC, the emergency telephone number in the UK is 123...

But wait, they write dates as day-month... So it's 12 March they have to be worried about? Jeez, this guy is confusing me....

50 posted on 03/28/2002 12:25:47 PM PST by Chemist_Geek
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To: A Navy Vet
Navy Vet posted, With their thoughts "rattling" around inside their heads, it creates a stabilizing gyroscopic effect.

If you replaced thoughts with rocks, it would be a little more appropriate:

With their rocks "rattling" around inside their heads, it creates a stabilizing gyroscopic effect.

51 posted on 03/28/2002 12:32:19 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: marshmallow
"The terrorist attacks on New York and Washington were undertaken by the Illuminati -- the human descendants of alien reptiles who want to create a global fascist state."

Since their overt attack failed I guess they're going with Plan B. And politicians wonder why we call them snakes?

52 posted on 03/28/2002 12:33:38 PM PST by Justa
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To: Chemist_Geek
The emergency telephone number in the UK is 999. So if somethin significant happened on the 9th of September 1909, nobody noticed(before anybody posts the Tunguska event happened in 1906). My concern about Icke is that he was laughed out of the UK, but can fill 2000 seater venues in the US at $25 at seat!
53 posted on 03/28/2002 1:08:59 PM PST by rnf_fusilier
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To: Miss Marple
Yep. I like some of what David Icke has to say.
54 posted on 03/28/2002 1:09:40 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Dave S
"Its a sorry state of affairs that people's lives are so barren that they believe just crap."

So true. Nobody wants to believe that our leaders have sold us out to a system directly opposed to one of freedom, a republic of laws not men based on a constitution ensuring rights that come from God and not granted by government.

Especially as that great champion of liberty, George the Second Bush signs The Incumbent Protection Bill of 2002. But then, he is a distant relative of the House of Windsor and QE II. And then of course is that fact that the Clintons used to regularly join with The Bush clan up in Kennebunkport for years at the Bush estate.

Aren't they supposed to be fierce political enemies of each other? On with the Show!!!

55 posted on 03/28/2002 3:57:44 PM PST by DrLiberty
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To: Justa

56 posted on 03/28/2002 4:16:03 PM PST by Physicist
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To: marshmallow

WE.... MUST... TRY... TO.. BLEND.. IN....ACK ACK


57 posted on 03/28/2002 4:52:28 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: Ward Smythe
So that's what the local Freemason chapter does on stag night! Curses, they've been foiled again!
58 posted on 03/28/2002 4:57:02 PM PST by ward_of_the_state
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To: DainBramage

ACK ACK...


59 posted on 03/28/2002 5:04:05 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: Physicist



60 posted on 03/28/2002 5:11:09 PM PST by Justa
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