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To: TLBSHOW
Religious conservatives argue that we need to privately change people’s minds and hearts, thereby transforming the culture. There is no government coercion involved in reintroducing social stigma to our society.

If the above were actually true it would certainly strenghten the socio-cons' case. Sadly from what I've seen it doesn't matter whether you're a liberal, conservative, communist, or fascist. You get into positions of power and you just can't resist the temptation to legislate your vision of how you think the world should be. Or would you seriously expect me to believe that if we lived in a Social Conservative America that we wouldn't have a whole spate of laws governing all kinds of moral (or ethical) behavior? Or would you really leave Roe vs. Wade on the books? I didn't think so.

I don't have a problem with the Religious Right espousing their views and wanting to re-introduce morality back into America (though you would get an argument from me about morality having truly left America). I do have a problem with the Religious Right saying that they don't want to legislate morality when clearly given the chance they would. Be honest about your positions. If you feel you have to slink or sneak around to get the job done there's something fundementally wrong with your position then, in my opinion. That goes double for the left.

p.s. The author is totally off base with the "tight clothes" and drinking in a bar comment. Since when does 1+1=3. Tight clothes do not equate with immoral behavior. Getting drunk in a bar does not equate with immoral behavior (though it does show a lack of judgement). Yet if one wears tight clothes and gets drunk in a bar it's immoral? And why only women are immoral? What about men who wear tight jeans and go get drunk in a bar? They'r not immoral? This whole concept is not well thought out by the author or at the very least is not well explained.

15 posted on 03/28/2002 10:23:17 AM PST by Metal4Ever
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To: Metal4Ever
Well I don't really know how moral people were in the past before the 60's being 20 my Father says things were better certainly. I tend to put loyalty, and honesty among the chief moral virtues( don't really think pre marital sex has much to do with it) and those are certainly rare these days.
16 posted on 03/28/2002 10:45:05 AM PST by weikel
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To: Metal4Ever
All law expresses morality.
17 posted on 03/28/2002 10:52:36 AM PST by aardvark1
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