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To: EBUCK
Of course the President has a duty to the Constitution. The Constitution, however, is silent on the issue of review - what branch, if any has a duty to review legislation for constitutionality? You can make policy arguments that its Congress's duty not to pass unconstitutional legislation, or that its the Prez's duty not to sign it. But since Marbury v. Madison its been accepted that it is primarily SCOTUS's duty to perform the constitutionality review.

We conservatives agree that the 60-day ban is unconstitutional, but that result is not guaranteed if you review all 500+ volumes of the Supreme Court Reporter. Some limits on campaign ad money are constitutional according to SCOTUS and have been in place for 30 years. Commericial speech, TV ads, has never been given the same protections as other forms of speech. And if you actually read the bill you will see there are lots of ways individuals and members of groups can and will influence elections during the 60-day period - the claim people are silenced is just wrong.

I agree this is a bad bill, as does the President, apparently. But it tinkers with restrictions that have been around for decades. It's not the end of the world. I have a pissificity meter that regularly goes off when the government restricts my rights. My pissificity meter is at about 3 out of 10 right now.

OK, I know what you're going to reply. So, here's my response in advance. You're right, Bush made a political call and is no longer pure of the conservative spirit. So, let's split the conservative movement and nominate an ideologically pure third party candidate. Lets do to Dubya what we did to his dad. Lets make him a one termer. Lets elect Gore, Hillary or Edwards. Lets raise taxes. Lets have more restrictive gun control. Lets quit being "unilateralist" and give in to the Europeans and quit the war on terror now - heck, maybe next time the terrorists will get the Capitol, after all it took them two tries to get the WTC. Lets have another go at a Middle East "peace" settlement - maybe we can cause all out war in the Middle East this time. Lets sign the global warming treaty and sink our economy. Let's expand Medicare and bankrupt Social Security 15 years faster. Lets protect the environment by mandating strict fuel economy standards and drive up the price of gasoline and electricity 2-3 times. Lets quit coddling the military, they don't need a pay raise or all that expensive high tech equipment. Lets have another corrupt administration and impeachment trial.

Happy now?

439 posted on 03/28/2002 12:06:35 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
And, contrary to what you may have heard, the bill does not prohibit organizations from broadcasting ads about specific candidates prior to an election. However, the bill requires that ads be funded with regulated "hard dollars" which are subject to contribution limits, rather than unregulated "soft money" within 60 days of a general election or 30 days of a primary. Senator Mitch McConnell, and others, have promised to challenge this legislation in court on constitutional grounds. The legislation provides for expedited review by the Supreme Court, which will ultimately, decide these questions.

You sound just like my rep, Oregon 4th dist. Rep. Peter Defazio-D. Not that that's always bad but I just wanted you to know where else that information is coming from.

I guess that we are going to have to agree to disagree. Cause my P-Od-O-Meter is at 9 over this. At least we do agree that this a bad piece of legislation that should be struck down by the SCOTUS. And while I still believe that both houses and the office of pres are (or at least should be) bound to stay within the limits of the current Constitution....well, I just going to leave it at that.

Cheers,

EBUCK

451 posted on 03/28/2002 12:19:39 PM PST by EBUCK
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