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211 posted on 03/28/2002 9:43:23 AM PST by jpsb
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If you consider yourself too conservative for the GOP, then you're on the fringe, no doubt whatsoever about that. I'm very conservative, but do not have a big problem with the GOP, not one such that I bellyache about it 24/7. It's not a perfect party, but there are no workable alternatives. The ones mentioned frequently on this site are Libertarians, which a knowledgeable Christian like myself cannot vote for in good conscience, since they support abortion, and legalized drugs would be a disaster, not the "Nirvana" that's shoved forward by the LP. Plus, the LP's ridiculous notion that there is no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. Tell that to Judge Pickering who was voted on in committee. I don't know about you Libertarians, but I could definitely tell the difference there. Might have been a different outcome to that if the Libertarians would not have fielded a candidate in Washington State in the 2000 US Senate race.

And how about all the so-called "true conservatives" on this site that complain that the GOP is not conservative enough? As opposed to what? I sympathize with those comments, but to vote 3rd party (I voted for PJB until he left the Republican Party; on further reflection, I can't say that I would repeat that if I had the chance to do it all over again), is totally counter-productive, as it also is to sit out elections. I will not follow those who advocate that. IMHO, being a conservative includes being responsible, and voting 3rd party, or sitting out an election is totally at variance with that. In almost all cases, 3rd parties never win, so voting for them, and having foreknowledge of that fact, is an act of irresponsibility.

Some of you on here simply do not grasp all the facts in the current day US political system. The US is so liberal, that I am amazed that we can even get the present moderately conservative GOP elected to a majority, much less the muscular, hard-core conservative one that some of you dream about. Unless there is a gigantic shift of some sort, the conservative influence in gov't will continue to wane, and with all the Mexican immigration, this will accelerate even more rapidly. The only way that the conservative cause will triumph, because it's constantly under assault by the leftist media and their allies, is for it to be proven, and that will only be done if an elected government provides that proof. You have to elect that gov't in order to be able to overwhelm the leftist media, and it's not going to be elected while the small number of conservatives we now have are splitting their votes, sitting out elections, making shrill arguments that don't hold water but DO discourage and deceive the weak among us to just not bother to vote at all. Why should they, based on the arguments of the anti-GOP conservatives? Plus, by "dividing and conquering," the anti-GOP fringe split away more and more conservative voters from the GOP, making it even less conservative than it already is. Then the Dems win the majority of elections, and NO conservative majority is elected. (Do you REALLY prefer that a Democrat President and both houses govern us, like the first two years of the Clinton Presidency?)

But it's wasted breath here on Freep. All the "squeaky wheel" "conservatives" get on here, make their cute little anti-GOP posts, cause numbers of otherwise GOP voters to stray and then the Dems rule the roost, which the fringe declares is a "victory of principle." LOL! Yeah, WHAT principle is that? That your efforts got the Dems elected, or miracle of miracles, the LP elected, who would morph into a more liberal, non-conservative party in order to hang onto power.

You fringe dudes kick up a lot of dust, but you don't make any sense whatsoever. Any plan that does not concentrate on getting the GOP into power, and in substantial enough numbers to really run the show, is worse then that just mentioned. We ought to get the GOP into power, and keep up as much pressure on it as possible to keep knocking it back into a conservative direction again, and again, and again, as much as we can accomplish in that regard.

That will pay more conservative dividends that any anti-GOP plan posted here ever could. There is no better alternative. But then, it's far more fun to be destructive than to be productive; far more fun to complain and b---- than to be patient and focus on realistic and workable goals; far more fun to be self-righteous and declare yourself a "true conservative" while ripping those that also are, but are not your identical twin; far more fun to be intolerant and call it "principle" while millions of children are aborted each year, because you helped split the conservative vote, for some reason only understood by those who comprise the "fringe." And all of you ARE correct; since there is a 1/100 ratio of Republicans to "Fringe" who post here, I stand corrected; this surely is NOT a GOP site, or even one that is remotely sympathetic to it. It is Fringe Headquarters, whose motto is, "heck, we may eventually cause the US to be a one-party (Democrat) state, but golly, we sure do have principle!" You got something, that's for d--- sure.....

455 posted on 03/28/2002 12:23:29 PM PST by Malcolm
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