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DAVID WESTERFIELD TO FACE JUDGE AGAIN: Van Dam Murder Update 2:00 P.M. Pacific Time
KFMB-CBS ^ | March 28, 2002 | KFMB-CBS

Posted on 03/28/2002 7:54:29 AM PST by FresnoDA

DAVID WESTERFIELD TO FACE JUDGE AGAIN

( 03-28-2002 ) - A Sabre Springs man accused of killing 7-year-old Danielle van Dam and leaving her body in the East County is scheduled to be arraigned Thursday on charges of murder, kidnapping and possession of child pornography.

Along with entering a plea, David A. Westerfield, 50, may get a trial date at the hearing and find out if prosecutors intend to seek the death penalty against him if he's convicted.

Most likely, the judge will set a trial date within a 60 day timeframe. Otherwise, Westerfield's right to a speedy trial will be violated.

Attorney Bill Nimmo says it's probable that Westerfield's attorney, Steven Feldman, will waive this right.

If that happens, it could be six months to a year before the Westerfield's case goes to trial.

There could also be a possible plea bargain by the self employed design engineer to avoid a possible death penalty charge.

"The way I read the state's evidence, it's very powerful. And rarely do they bargain unless they have problems with their evidence. If they had some problems with their evidence, like there was a faulty DNA test, or if one of the witnesses had actually more contact with Westerfield... watering down the presence of the DNA... and that brought a fear in the prosecution that they could lose this case, then they might try to plea bargain," explained Nimmo.

After a three-day preliminary hearing, Superior Court Judge H. Ronald Domnitz ruled back on March 14 that there was enough evidence for Westerfield to face the charges at trial.

Superior Court Judge Peter Deddeh may assign the case to another judge for all further hearings, including the trial.

Westerfield -- who lived two doors down and across the street from the van Dam family -- is currently held without bail.

Thursday's arraignment set for 2 p.m. Stay tuned to LOCAL 8 for live coverage.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: vandam; westerfield
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To: MizSterious
A simple question..that's all I had. No need to get defensive towards each other right? (we've had enough of this kind of stuff on previous threads...sorry bout that) cya later..
261 posted on 03/29/2002 4:39:18 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Before you complain about the use of such a word, first look up the definition.
262 posted on 03/29/2002 4:40:15 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
Maybe next time you can defend the label? And techinally you are incorrect in your assumption... For your information I knew the definition... Other posters who make such strong accusations..previously acted like the people who don't attack the van dams make excuses, apologize for and defend their lifestyle....Hence the reasoning behind my questions. If there was a new revelation behind that tired old label, I wanted to know what it was. Read back thru the old threads and see them for yourself.

Just because one uses apologist and apologize in the same post, doesn't mean one is using the same definition for both. I really wanted to hear another point of view as to WHY people who don't attack the VD's are apologists ..that's really all I wanted to know. Sorry it was too complicated.

http://www.thesaurus.com/cgi-bin/search?config=roget&words=apologize

2. Moral sentiments--apology, gloss, varnish; plea [more]; salvo; excuse, extenuating circumstances; allowance, allowance to be made; locus paenitentiae.

263 posted on 03/29/2002 4:54:10 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
You said, and I quote (again):

Why do you guys insist on calling those who aren't attacking the parents apologists? I've yet to see ANYONE apologize for their behaviour.

Look, lady. Anyone reading this statement will quickly come to the logical conclusion that you think "apologist" means someone is apologizing for something. I don't see that anyone has to prove anything--you've already proven (with your own words, which makes it all the more delicious) that you haven't a grip--on the definition of the word "apologist", anyway. Perhaps using smaller words would help?

264 posted on 03/29/2002 6:01:16 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
LOL~! ok, never mind...I can see you're only here for one thing.
265 posted on 03/29/2002 6:14:36 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: fresnoda
Fres, this is your fault.. LOL Ya shouldn't have started that label weeks ago...none of this would have happened otherwise. :D
266 posted on 03/29/2002 6:17:58 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: MizSterious
LOL BUMP!! GO MizSterious....great name....
267 posted on 03/29/2002 8:19:22 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Fres, this is your fault.. LOL Ya shouldn't have started that label weeks ago...none of this would have happened otherwise. :D

Thank you kimmie...I for one think you have done a good job, and have dutifully earned the title of Head VD Apologist....Val is a close second.....now, if LG or BU ever show back up......nah...you would still be the winner, hands down......LOL


268 posted on 03/29/2002 8:21:09 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
{{~smack~}} Bite your tongue!
269 posted on 03/29/2002 8:23:44 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~;MizSterious;spectre;Jaded

BTW....where is golitely? 

I heard "go" was in quite a spat a few threads away...

Now, you didn't push that darned "abuse button" again did you kimmie, you little rascal?

Just can't believe it...maybe "go" is in a time out? It is a shame....go was a great antagonist of "certain" VD apologist....rats....I suddenly feel a bit alone...

Better give spectre or Jaded a call!!!

But alas..I am buoyed by the spirited onslaught by MizSterious....you have to agree kimmie, Miz has gotten right into the fight!!

Things be a changing on these VD threads.......FDA


270 posted on 03/29/2002 8:28:55 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Registered
Thank you, this is a dangerous thread sometimes.
271 posted on 03/29/2002 10:12:11 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: Kim4VRWC's
"Why do you guys insist on calling those who aren't attacking the parents apologists? I've yet to see ANYONE apologize for their behaviour..and I've been trying to follow the threads since March 1st."

Questioning the questionable activities of the parents in my opinion is not attacking them. I find it questionable that those who have problems with child molesters don't wonder (at the very least) about the questionable climate and activities going on in the Van Dam home. To be so convicted that Westerfield is guilty because he had child porn on his computer and not to be disgusted with the shocking lack of parental protection of Danielle and her brothers by allowing shady people in their very home in the dark hours of the night is quite hypocritical in my book. That is a big disconnect.

272 posted on 03/30/2002 2:07:27 AM PST by Lauratealeaf
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To: MizSterious
"I don't trust the parents so it makes anything that they have said suspect." That really is the problem, isn't it? The van Dams have changed their stories so many times it's hard to keep up with the latest version. Both of them seem to have lied under oath.

Boy, you've got that right!

273 posted on 03/30/2002 2:14:45 AM PST by Lauratealeaf
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To: FresnoDA
"golitely", RIP...

Fres, you are a little rascal, wink, wink.

sw

274 posted on 03/30/2002 4:54:17 AM PST by spectre
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To: FresnoDA
Fres Fres Fres.....Do You see a reason to push the ''abuse'' button? I don't, and like the moderator said in the previous posts some of you guys had itchy fingers on....she/he doesn't know who pushes that abuse button and guess what!!?? There were at least 5 people that you don't know about that did it...so to assume it was me, well you know what assume is. Did Golitely get in trouble again? lol dang, one of these days she's gotta learn to relax, the poor thing.
275 posted on 03/30/2002 5:02:29 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: Lauratealeaf
Hi Laura,

Questioning the questionable activities of the parents in my opinion is not attacking them.
I agree with you 100% on that point

I find it questionable that those who have problems with child molesters don't wonder (at the very least) about the questionable climate and activities going on in the Van Dam home.

I completely agree that parents need to be ruled out first of course....even Klaas and John Walsh agree with that. I would have agreed with you on this point even further if the original rumors were true. THe original rumors were that the van dams were swingers bringing strangers into the home including that night. I've yet to see that proven. I was told that swingers make it a habit to not bring strangers into the home so go figure..??? The people they did bring in the home were long time friends.. (yeah I know...not respectable friends..drug dealer etc--was the drug dealer charge admitted by vd's in court? I can't remember) I guess my bottom line is that there is a risk in all areas...from small time drug users to catholic priests...does this make us feel our kids our safe? :(

To be so convicted that Westerfield is guilty because he had child porn on his computer and not to be disgusted with the shocking lack of parental protection of Danielle and her brothers by allowing shady people in their very home in the dark hours of the night is quite hypocritical in my book

I think most of the people that you call(ed) apologists which in my opinion is incorrect...completely agree that their lifestyle was deviant, was immature, were bad choices and most of all, risky. I have a serious problem with selfishness..alcoholics and druggies, ESPECIALLY addicts and users that are as old as the vd's. It's unnatural, sinful and just plain wrong. I can't say enough negative about it. BUT..the police have ruled them out as suspects at this time. IF the investigators get new evidence against the parents, or charge the parents with neglect....I'm on the laws side unless the law enforcers ABUSE their power. But, for some people to assume that these parents don't care about their kids, or hate them, or are draining public sympathy for selfish purposes or are faking their grief..that would be a darn big assumption. Walsh and Klaas both agree that it is common for parents to get trashed in such situations...so what is the answer? I don't know. Heck, alcoholics can grieve, and so can druggies...so I'm not understanding why someone would jump to that conclusion. I'm not saying you have, but others..

As far as the child porn or large collection of porn...Val posted an article on another thread...that talks about how some pedophiles do collect large amounts of porn, both legal and illegal porn. It's just a piece of a puzzle...not the convicting piece. To me, the handprint and dna are strong indicators of something and the prosecutor did not have to reveal everything at the PH hearing..so maybe we will learn of more evidence in the future trial.
So..for me, it's not that I believe he's guilty, I believe the current evidence revealed to the public leans towards westerfield and not the parents. In my personal opinion, if he is guilty, westerfield was probably stalking danielle for a long time,found an opportunity and exploited it. I don't think the vd's lifestyle increased the chances per say..mainly because pedophiles don't care if the parents party on weekends or not. All they care about is getting their 'fix'...

276 posted on 03/30/2002 5:39:27 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: MizSterious;spectre;Amore;Travis McGee;BunnySlippers;Doughtyone;Hillary's Lovely Legs;Snow Bunny...
More about the Alibi......seems old DW was out with a "friend" until 3:30, then came by the VD house, and noticed a lot of activity going on....hhhmmmm....

David Westerfield's interview with channel 10 News:


DW: She was with, uh, two of her friends.

MM: Girlfriends, right?

DW: Yeah, girlfriends.

MM: And so, they came in and they stayed about how long?

DW: Ummm...I'm guessing that they were there until at least after I left, you know, I was there until about 10:00, 10:30, something like that, so...

MM: What was their mood like?

DW: Oh, they were having a good time, you know, just playing pool with people and joking around, so...

MM: Did the detectives say why they searched your house with dogs, did they tell you any reason?

DW: I was gone all weekend...

MM: You have children?

DW: Yeah, I have two

MM: ....friends or the age of the girl? Do they know the girl?

DW: No, no, not at all. But umm.....I'd say I left here about 10:30 and there was nothing going on when I left and when I came back that evening at about 3.....30,

MM: A.M.?

DW: Everybody was around, yeah....... (is interrupted and starts walking back toward front door, talking to someone else.

277 posted on 03/30/2002 6:50:02 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
We KNOW who pushed the abuse button, ~Kimmie~, so nice try.

Another cheap shot at our friend, Golitely, ~Kimmie~...Don't worry, she's lurking...LOL!!!

sw

278 posted on 03/30/2002 7:51:37 AM PST by spectre
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To: spectre
LOL would you like some cheese with that whine? You don't know a thing..but nice try!

Hi Lurking Golitely! I didn't think it was a ''cheap shot'' to suggest that you relax and enjoy the fr posting privilege...rather than getting upset and personal. What is this now...3 banned times in 35 days or so?? Have you set a record yet?

279 posted on 03/30/2002 8:01:04 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: spectre
The weather her in MO is awesome today!! How is it in your neck of the woods? I'm ready to open the winders and clean clean.. Have a nice day..and cya later.
280 posted on 03/30/2002 8:05:18 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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