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To: uncbob
The fact is a democrat controlled congress was able to pass a tax increase , pressure Bush into signing it and then turn around and beat him over the head with it during the campaign because he broke his promise and it WORKED

Agreed.

In this case, however, I believe they, the dems were working the other way.
They were hoping bush would veto, after they and the willing accomplices of the media had "prepped" the minds of voters as to the nastiness of enron and "money grubbing republicans", then they would have harped ad nasueum through next November, in an effort to regain the house while maintaining the senate, which, after all, is the ball here that we need to keep our eyes on.

The dems sole drive, regardless of anything they say or do, is to maintain the senate and retake the house. They will do ANYTHING imaginable to achieve these goals, and conservatives have to ever be vigilant, and make the best possible play for each and every scenario. Sometimes that involves swallowing pride, sometimes placing a temporary dampner on principles, especially if the end goal is to retain those same principles.

When it works, it is a shrewd move, when it doesn't, the results are disasterous. The game is hardball, no prisoners, and the stakes are the existance of the United States as originally intended.

153 posted on 03/28/2002 7:33:36 AM PST by going hot
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To: going hot
"In this case, however, I believe they, the dems were working the other way.
They were hoping bush would veto, after they and the willing accomplices of the media had "prepped" the minds of voters as to the nastiness of enron and "money grubbing republicans", then they would have harped ad nasueum through next November, in an effort to regain the house while maintaining the senate, which, after all, is the ball here that we need to keep our eyes on."

ABSOLUTELY! I'd like to believe the president is acutely aware of that fact as well.

161 posted on 03/28/2002 7:45:22 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: going hot
They will do ANYTHING imaginable to achieve these goals, and conservatives have to ever be vigilant, and make the best possible play for each and every scenario. Sometimes that involves swallowing pride,

And if you think you are going to play games with the democrats and win you are mistaken. They are gutter fighters and trying to outsmart them by some POLITICAL RUSE isn't going to work.

Bush should have been principled and vetoed it LIKE HE PROMISED other wise his WORDS MEAN NOTHING

Just tell me what if any thing should I believe that he promises in the future
165 posted on 03/28/2002 7:49:11 AM PST by uncbob
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