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Stealth Signing: Dashing out the door, the King of Hard Money Leaves Behind a John Hancock.
ABCNEWS ^ | Thursday, March 28, 2002 | Mark Halperin, Elizabeth Wilner

Posted on 03/28/2002 2:45:26 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: IncPen;maica
Bush and his people are very sophisticated in using the media against their opponents, frequently maddening them with the result. Recall the fall of 2000, where Bush would run an 'issues' ad in some backwater locale, and the next night the Democrats would be raising hell on the nightly news (where the ad was repeated over and over again, for free).

Finally, a Republican who understands politics.

21 posted on 03/28/2002 5:04:23 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: JohnHuang2
Bump for later consideration.
22 posted on 03/28/2002 5:07:42 AM PST by Denver Ditdat
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To: JohnHuang2
George W. Bush: Political Virtuoso, or Sell-out?

No options in between?

Might it not vary from issue to issue?




23 posted on 03/28/2002 5:11:02 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: JohnHuang2; Miss Marple; Howlin; McGavin 999
Great essay, John!

Last year, Miss Marple labled GW as the Stealth President. She did this because of his results in spite of the left wing maggots who control the media and the senate. Also, in spite of the out of touch so called conservative think tanks who would tar and feather Thomas Jefferson or George Washington if they could return and be our presidents.

Howlin commented on another thread that the cable news people as of yesterday afternoon had not even covered his signing of this phoney bill. A sign that the liberal mediots didn't know where to go or what to do, the "dumb" Texan had taken the arrow out their bow, broke it, cut the string, and then broke the bow on this issue.

Immediately the NRA (the evil conservative organization) filed a lawsuit and well as the evil conservative Senator. They will bear the water and take the lightening bolts from the maggots of the left wing media, while GW continues to do his job!

24 posted on 03/28/2002 5:12:42 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: JohnHuang2
John, I must say that is one of your best. Thank you for the historical perspective of past greats, e.g. Reagan, who held their noses and "sacrificed principle" to obtain the ability to lead on other issues. BTW, nice to see "presstitute" worked its way into your lexicon. ;^)

I think you are spot on. Many purists here want that perfect conservative, ignoring the realities of Washington. Sure I would love to see W kill many feel good programs that have no place for the feds constitutionally or otherwise. Such a candidate, however, would garnish 15% of the vote and, like Alan Keyes (who I admire), sit on the sidelines. W sent a message loud and clear that he would sign CFR and it was up to his party to make it right. McComplain and the 'Rats, desparate to have it pass included some good stuff to accomplish that and I think put in some poison hoping W would veto it. He did not and now they don't know what to do. Sure, one can gripe about the "nonconservative" things W has done. He is fully aware and willing to deal with that. I grow more and more impressed with him every day as he kills this nation's internal enemies with kindness and kills the terrorists with the conviction that is absolutely necessary to preserve our way of life. Again, kudos....

25 posted on 03/28/2002 5:18:15 AM PST by eureka!
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks for the great article. I was about to throw in the towel as far as Bush goes. I still don't like his signing of CFR but did like the fact that he did not make it a photo op for McCain and his cohorts in the Damolcrappie party. Now, I just hope that he won't cave in on another issue that the liberals propose.
26 posted on 03/28/2002 5:19:18 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: Freee-dame
The memory of President Bush signing this bill on the way to giving speeches - to wildly enthusiastic crowds - in South Carolina - makes me giggle! I want to laugh at the mere mention of the name McCain! Our President is a brilliant strategorist!

As a matter of fact, Rush's repeated use of the word "strategory" while discussing the CFR gave me the idea that he was not as vehemently against this bill signing as his rantings sounded.

27 posted on 03/28/2002 5:19:46 AM PST by maica
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To: JohnHuang2
Great essay, and gives second thoughts to one of those who is very active on those 'bashing' threads. I STILL don't like him signing a bill that trashes the most basic fundamentals of the Constitution, though, and the 'every President does it' excuse isn't much of a refutation.

On my part, I'm making the same mistake as the Left... underestimating him. However, that still doesn't mean that his 'plan' for CFR will come to fruition. As you say, he's not perfect (and nobody is), which means that this gambit can fail, and SCOTUS just might leave us with a government who now feels like they have the authority, the power, and the ability to legislate what speech is allowed. Then the politicians will have the final confirmation that political game is their very own, and that we 'little people' are not welcome to play.

28 posted on 03/28/2002 5:20:39 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: JohnHuang2
Another fine essay, John! Thanks for articulating what many of us had felt in our gut, but just couldn't express it properly.

This may be a bad analogy, but there is a similarity between Bush and Reagan. Reagan did the Democrats in a budgetary fashion: by not holding the Demos feet to the fire when they didn't give him the agreed upon 2-3 dollars in spending cuts for each dollar in tax cuts, the deficits ballooned. Those deficits slowed the growth in government spending, and gave our economy time to catch up, leading to the surplusses of the late 90's.

Bush is doing in the Democrats legislatively: even though he signed CFR quietly, politically it takes the issue off the radar screen. Everybody knows that the real battle over CFR is in the courts. Sorry to all of you hardcore constitutionalists, but CFR isn't even a blip on my radar screen. As a tax CPA, I've learned that virtually every law has loopholes as big as Mack trucks written into them, for the benefit of the well-connected.

And is CFR going to reduce the percentage of incumbents getting re-elected? Don't make me laugh.

Thanks to our President, my boss will be able to contribute $40,000 to her SEP next year, instead of $25,500 this year. Yes, she makes a lot of money, but boy does she pay a lot of taxes. She also has about 15 people who work for her in various capacities. I guess you could call me a die-hard supporter of trickle down economics.

So, while there a plenty of folks out there wailing about CFR, I'll focus my energies on my family and God, and keeping my boss (and my small circle of clients) happy with my work.

Call it what you will, but there is a definite connection to my conversion to Catholicism 4 years ago and the wonderful gifts my family and I have received in that same period. Sure we've struggled, but doesn't everybody?

That's why I just can't get fired up over CFR. However, the NORTHEAST DAIRY COMPACT is a different matter altogether! If Bush lets Judas Jeffords get away with that, I'll never vote for Bush ever again!!!!!!

Just kidding...Bush may need to use that arrow in his quiver for something down the road (a Supreme Court appointment?). I'll let Dubya do his job, because I've got enough to handle in my own small world.

29 posted on 03/28/2002 5:25:29 AM PST by Night Hides Not
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To: JohnHuang2
Applause, JH2! The very very best thing was the President not calling in John McCain for a signing ceremony!!!! LOVED THAT. And, Neil Boortz nailed McCain last night on why the 60 day ban was put into this bill - specifically to stop a group who advertised against McCain right before his most recent election in Arizona. That is the portion which will be struck down by the USSC, by God's grace.

I am more upset at the 40 Repub Congressmen and the 10 Repub Senators who signed on to this garbage - unnecessarily - than I am at President Bush for signing it and getting it out of the way.

Yes, the President has taken stands that are critical to our country's future - and he has enemies on every side - both within and without. In me, he has no enemy. I am with him and for him. Pray for our President and our country.

30 posted on 03/28/2002 5:30:59 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Dane
Thought you would fine JH2's take interesting. Thus, *Ping*..
31 posted on 03/28/2002 5:31:44 AM PST by eureka!
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To: Sabertooth
Or maybe it is possible that he is doing what any baseball GM would do: Make a trade that will improve the team overall, even if it will upset some of the fans.

CFR is only the second time that I have felt any level of discomfort with a decision the President has made. The other item has been the State Department's decision to list the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia in the same category of terrorist groups that includes al-Qaida and FARC.

I'll commend you on one thing. Unlike another person here, you've not stooped to personal cheap shots with those who disagree with you. I just hope we can work together more often than not.

32 posted on 03/28/2002 5:36:28 AM PST by hchutch
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To: JohnHuang2
Sounds familiar -- say, like Carville washing Clinton clean of all his sins in suds of frothy prose.
33 posted on 03/28/2002 5:37:29 AM PST by Whilom
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To: FreedomPoster
Dems create an issue out of this

OK. I obviously don't get it, so please educate me.

During the 2000 campaign, poll after poll showed that out of 15 stated policy issues, CFR rated 15th most important and only got that high because it was included in the list. The 14th highest rated issue was "OTHER". In other words, CFR was not and is not an issue that the American people at large give a flying (sorry) care about to any great extent. If they did, McLame would be President. The only reason conservatives are paying attention to it now is the First Amendment issue.

So, you make the point that the Dems would have this as a campaign issue if Pres. Bush didn't sign it. So what? It was irrelevant in 2000 and it would have been irrelveant now and in 2004. In fact, if the President had gone on TV and explained why it needed to be vetoed in order to preserve the First Amendment it would have at worst been neutral as always and at best, a positive Repub issue.

That's my perspective. Please explain to me why it was so important for the President to trash his oath of office and break a campaign promise in order to remove an irrelevant issue from the Dems' arsenal of irrelevant issues.

34 posted on 03/28/2002 5:43:30 AM PST by otterpond
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To: eureka!; John Huang2
Thanks for the "ping", John's essay as usual is a cogent non-hyperbolic essay that lays out all the facts in easy to read prose.

This wasn't two cents's worth but the whole nickle. Thank you John.

35 posted on 03/28/2002 5:45:07 AM PST by Dane
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To: FreedomPoster; JohnHuang2; Carolinamom
John, it is truly an excellent essay.
I, an admitted Bushbot, have not upset by CFR, but I am still upset by HR1885. What I see as the biggest problem is the Bush advisers' failure to work harder on propaganda (I use that word in the good sense.) to get his message across to the American people, a task made so difficult by the liberal media. Right now, there are a lot of conservatives that are ticked off and need to feel that Bush still cares about their agenda and is not caving or selling out. There is a need for Bush people to get face time on tv and to say things like, "Now, wait a minute! What DascholeGebhartClintonBiden just said is not true. The truth is...... "
36 posted on 03/28/2002 5:51:39 AM PST by Bigg Red
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To: Carolinamom
"Color me any color you like, but time will tell, won't it? "

I would not do that to you Carolinamom. I don't think we disagree that much. I'll give our President an 80/100 so far. The 20 points I disagree with are important to me as they conflict with the US Constituion IMO.

A person is only as good as their word. See why bill clinton was so bad.

37 posted on 03/28/2002 5:54:34 AM PST by Wurlitzer
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To: IncPen
Let's hope you are right and the President is beating the 'Rats with their own stick. Ah, a great 'Rat trap!
38 posted on 03/28/2002 5:56:02 AM PST by Bigg Red
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks for the ping, and for you 2 cents worth.
39 posted on 03/28/2002 5:59:52 AM PST by .38sw
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To: McGavin999; deport; PhiKapMom; OneidaM; OldFriend
Bump.
40 posted on 03/28/2002 6:16:19 AM PST by Howlin
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