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To: besieged
he despised the hypocritical Arab public figures who sold land to Jews in secret and then gave vent to extreme nationalist utterances

I see they have the same type of politicians over there that we get over here.

On another note. I see the dates are before re-colonization began (1948 right) so were these actaully transfers of title or what? If they had title to sell how was it listed, such and such location, such and such acreage, In the country to Be named? I thought that by the logic posted here they didn't actually own land because they weren't contained within an established gubments boundries.

EBUCK

82 posted on 03/27/2002 2:34:12 PM PST by EBUCK
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To: EBUCK
Yes, the people don't change, only the names. You got that one right. Politics is politics. (HURL)

As far as title/grants and such... I don't know how it was recorded, or who kept the records. I just gave you the quickly available references to the fact that the Palestinians were not "thrown" off the land.

What you probably don't know is that in 1948, when the entire Arab world was declaring war on Israel, with the combined armies at the borders, a WHOLE LOT of "Palestinians" who were living in Israel CHOSE to leave the country to avoid the war. They did not stay to fight, but cast their lot with their "brothers". It was "obvious" to those Palestinians that the Israeli's would be wipe off the face of the earth in a few days, and they would be able to return and claim not only thier land back, but also the posessions of the dead Jews.

To that I say... "You don't stay to fight, you don't get the land". I have no sympathy for those Palestinians who cast their lot with the wrong side. They abandoned the land, no way should they get it back by crying and whining.

As far as the 1967 borders... Israel did not start that war... but they did finish it. That is how land is gained or lost. So, they Palestinians or ANY of the arab states have no claim on that land at all... I have no idea why the world is putting up with the Saudi plan. If that were the case, then we will need to redraw all the national borders in all the world, since they all came from land aquisition thorugh warfare.

88 posted on 03/27/2002 2:43:25 PM PST by besieged
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To: EBUCK
This may be of help in clarifying where the so called palestinians came from.

palestinian origins"

95 posted on 03/27/2002 2:51:54 PM PST by eleni121
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To: EBUCK
I thought that by the logic posted here they didn't actually own land because they weren't contained within an established gubments boundries.

Well, certainly not "palestine".
It was part of the Turkish Empire, and a small part of the total was under private ownership. Not a country, at the time it was called an "Administrative Region" of the Turkish Empire.

118 posted on 03/27/2002 4:17:37 PM PST by Publius6961
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