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The 1930's, Again
The National Review ^
| 3/25/2002
| Victor Davis Hansen
Posted on 03/26/2002 2:58:02 PM PST by krogers58
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At the risk of incurring the wrath of the repost gods, this is a repost, but it is so well written, I am willing to take the flaming.....gentlemen start your keyboards.
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posted on
03/26/2002 2:58:02 PM PST
by
krogers58
To: krogers58
Thanks posting or reposting this. I had missed it the first time if it was posted previously.
In my feeble ways, I have basically saying what Mr Hansen so eloquently says!
It will be bookmarked so that I can use it to reply to the Bravo Sierra posts defending Saddam and other terrorists until this is over!
To: krogers58
I don't care if it was posted before - this is a good read, ladies and gentlemen.
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posted on
03/26/2002 3:07:49 PM PST
by
Bosco
To: Bosco
I only wish I could write half as well as Hansen....
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posted on
03/26/2002 3:09:20 PM PST
by
krogers58
To: krogers58
LOL- Here's a big bump to your re-post. This piece contains one of the best rants I have ever read, and I consider myself a true conneseour of rants (altho' possibly not of spelling!)
The paragraph the begins "After 30 years..." and ends with "....you,you, you" is so great I want to memorize it and declaim it on the street corners. I actually took the big risk of reading it aloud to my sixteen year old. I contibuted nothing, I hadn't made time to read it through (out loud that is) on my own even once. It was so good, it is so good, she actually said "Pretty good" which is about as big a compliment as "grown-up" things get from her these day.
And it's so much longer, more cogent, and impressive than poor Ann Coulters "...invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity!" Which was just grief-stoked hysteria and should have been stopped by the same editor that fired her for it. Her pain was so raw throughout the entire piece that I just felt bad for her, but I did like the rant!
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posted on
03/26/2002 3:09:57 PM PST
by
jocon307
To: krogers58
To: krogers58
So we should stop apologizing, prepare for the worst, hope for the best, and accept this animosity just as our forefathers once did when faced by similar autocrats and their captive peoples who threatened us in 1941. I don't know about the rest of America, but I am proud that thugs like Khaddafi, murderers like Saddam Hussein, inquisitionists like the mullahs in Iran, criminals in Syria, medieval sheiks in the Gulf, and millions of others who do not vote, do not speak freely, oppress women, and are not tolerant of religious, gender, or ethnic diversity don't like me for being an American. I would find it repugnant if they did. Everything Victor Hansen writes bears repeating. Thanks, I missed it the first time.
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posted on
03/26/2002 3:15:53 PM PST
by
Valpal1
To: krogers58
I don't know about the rest of America, but I am proud that thugs like Khaddafi, murderers like Saddam Hussein, inquisitionists like the mullahs in Iran, criminals in Syria, medieval sheiks in the Gulf, and millions of others who do not vote, do not speak freely, oppress women, and are not tolerant of religious, gender, or ethnic diversity don't like me for being an American. I would find it repugnant if they did.Indeed. It isn't just the terrorists that are our enemies, but Islam, itself. After all, Ismlam translates to "submission." And those who do not submit to Allah and all the rules written in the Koran... Are to be executed.
Those who sit quietly by and do nothing, say nothing when more radical members of their religion perform such attacks, give tacit approval of those attacks.
ISLAM IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION. THOSE WHO FORGET THAT, DO SO AT THEIR OWN PERIL.
To: Valpal1
Thanks, I missed it the first time. here also
To: krogers58
Who turned the clock
was it front or back?
And what dark chill
is gathering still
before the storm?
Different Germany,
History repeats somehow
Different Germany,
Afraid to know you now
-Ian Anderson, Different Germany
To: krogers58
Thousands of al Qaeda killers have escaped and thousands more are angry over the death of the comrades and kin and planning carnage for us as we sleep. Here's a happy thought from Middle East expert Daniel Pipes:
Islamists constitute a small but significant minority of Muslims, perhaps 10 to 15 per cent of the population. Many of them are peaceable in apearance, but they all must be considered potential killers.
How does 400,000 to 800,000 -- in our country -- potential killers sound?
Pipes article here...
Muslim population in America
America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
Download 8 Mb zip file here (60 minute video)
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posted on
03/26/2002 4:03:36 PM PST
by
JCG
To: krogers58
I can't believe the author left out one of the most obvious similiarities between the 1930's and the present: Dubya is becoming more like FDR with each passing day.
History teaches us that certain nations, certain peoples, and certain religions at peculiar periods in their history take a momentary, but deadly leave of their senses ...the southern states in 1861...And when they do, they cannot be bribed, apologized to, or sweet-talked only defeated.
Obviously the author was playing hookey when history was teaching its lessons about events in 19th century America...not that the rest of his rant demonstrates any particular knowledge or wisdom regarding history in general.
To: The_Expatriate
They use Victor David Hansen's books to
teach history.
Victor Davis Hanson, author most recently of Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles in the Rise of Western Power.
You can read many of his articles at National Review Online here: Hansen
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posted on
03/26/2002 5:20:30 PM PST
by
Valpal1
To: Valpal1
Comparing the South's fight for independence with the imperialist policies of Napoleon's France, Hitler's Germany, and Wakatsuki's Japan (or rather the Japanese military) shows an appalling lack of historical perspective.
To: krogers58;MeeknMing
Some people do take a break from FR - so who cares if it is a repost? If it needs repeating - Repeat! Attn: MeeknMing - thanks for all the PINGS! - you don't miss many!
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posted on
03/27/2002 7:43:52 AM PST
by
janee
To: krogers58
This one is so over the top it's almost poetry! He has left out nothing in this anti Jihad essay.
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posted on
03/27/2002 7:49:31 AM PST
by
dennisw
To: The_Expatriate
Perhaps you should read more of his work. And not be so tetchy about a war that was lost 140 years ago. It is intirely probable the the South could have gained by diplomacy and litigation what it threw away in its jingoistic haste to war against a foe it could not logistically defeat.
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posted on
03/27/2002 8:29:31 AM PST
by
Valpal1
To: janee; krogers58
Some people do take a break from FR - so who cares if it is a repost? If it needs repeating - Repeat! Attn: MeeknMing - thanks for all the PINGS! - you don't miss many! I certainly don't mind it. I missed this the first time, and I agree. Great article krogers58! And thanks for the ping, Janee!
So we should stop apologizing, prepare for the worst, hope for the best, and accept this animosity just as our forefathers once did when faced by similar autocrats and their captive peoples who threatened us in 1941. I don't know about the rest of America, but I am proud that thugs like Khaddafi, murderers like Saddam Hussein, inquisitionists like the mullahs in Iran, criminals in Syria, medieval sheiks in the Gulf, and millions of others who do not vote, do not speak freely, oppress women, and are not tolerant of religious, gender, or ethnic diversity don't like me for being an American. I would find it repugnant if they did.
A lot of folks don't realize that once we start in on SADdam (emphasis on first syllable like George 1st did!), the folks that are his neighbors will stay silent for the most part, but won't stop us because they don't like this loser of a neighbor. They think of him like their Jeffrey Dahmer. They'd love to see him gone actually. He is a threat to all his neighbors - they don't like him - but don't want to confront him.
To: janee; krogers58
Dear President Bush: Start the bombing HERE:
Part of a 814,000 square meter complex outside Baghdad, and
begun while sanctions have been in effect, construction of
the Al Salam Palace was completed in September, 1999.
To: janee; krogers58
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