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Slavery Reparations Effort May Have Its Day in Court
CNSNews.com ^ | 3/26/02 | Christine Hall

Posted on 03/26/2002 1:55:27 AM PST by kattracks

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To: Congressman Billybob
I hope that there is some kind of "binding" court decision made on this thing whether it be in rejecting the suit or in hearing it out -- as long as they come to the correct decission. In other words, once the legal option is eliminated we'll stop hearing about this crock of ----.
21 posted on 03/26/2002 4:07:09 AM PST by Lee'sGhost
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To: kattracks
Taxpayer paid employees (IE: College Professors)should either leave their positions to persue activities such as working on lawsuits like this or be fired from their jobs when they participate in such activities.

The same should apply to other state, local and federal employees. Either be doing the job you were hired for or elected to or be fired. You wanna "moonlight"? Work on "our time"? Well, you can't! That's theft! You are fired!

As a taxpayer, I don't want a penny of the money I pay in going to people that I employ so they can around and sue "me".

22 posted on 03/26/2002 4:20:47 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: kattracks

23 posted on 03/26/2002 4:21:16 AM PST by Seeking the truth
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To: kattracks
If this reparations crap EVER gets to our government, and we pay even ONE DIME, I will gladly take part in the inevitable Race War.

I am already tired of being blamed for things I did not do. I'll be DAMNED if I'm going to pay for it too.

24 posted on 03/26/2002 4:27:57 AM PST by Johnny Shear
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I hope any reparation effort receives high media coverage.

This is exactly what I've been thinking. Most Americans don't have a clue about the reparations movement. As far as I'm concerned, the harder these greedy SOBs push their case the better.

25 posted on 03/26/2002 4:28:23 AM PST by NEPA
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To: kattracks
Cornel West Demands Reparations for Black Movie Goers
26 posted on 03/26/2002 4:32:52 AM PST by Hillary's Folly
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To: MeeknMing
Political Stars Form Music Group in Support of Reparations
27 posted on 03/26/2002 4:35:34 AM PST by Hillary's Folly
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To: metesky
The smell of money is in the air, as these companies will capitulate just to be left alone.

Although we have seen this happen several times in the past ten years, I doubt it will happen again this time. There is no legal standing for the parties who bring these suits. Slavery was legal at the time and I don't believe they can get anywhere with this "white companies profited from slavery and blacks are continually harmed by the lingering affects of slavery" argument. How some one is "harmed" by something that happened hundreds of years ago is subjective at best, but in reality actually very specious. There is absolutely no legal concept that allows for such a "recovery", if one can call it that.

28 posted on 03/26/2002 4:43:39 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
The really bad thing is when conyers is too old a fool to continue, the morons who elect him will elect another just like him.
29 posted on 03/26/2002 4:50:16 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Hillary's Folly
LOL!
30 posted on 03/26/2002 4:55:21 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: kattracks
Aetna, founded in 1853, had insured Southern slave owners
against the death of their slaves.

Now wait a minute. What insurance company would take such
a risk, what with the beatings and lynchings and all.

31 posted on 03/26/2002 5:24:48 AM PST by itsahoot
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To: Johnny Shear
If it comes to that, call me. I feel the exact same way, and if I stated how I truly feel I'd be banned for life from FR at leats and maybe the entire internet.
32 posted on 03/26/2002 5:27:02 AM PST by kaylar
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To: kattracks
What about Chinese coolies and other ethnic labor? Right to sue too?
33 posted on 03/26/2002 5:43:58 AM PST by zarf
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To: kaylar
Hmmmm Now here's an interesting dilemma. Where do the reparations end? The first generation children of slaves? Most of them are dead. The grandchildren of slaves? The great-gandchildren of slaves? You have to remember, that in 1862, the emancipation Proclamation was in full effect. So anyone who was a slave after 1862, In the South, who is still alive should be entitled to some kind of reparation. Now, with that said, the slave owner, who fed, clothed and educated those slaves should also be entitled to compensation for their expenses.

Now, who pays? Well... The majority of slaves were sold to Europeans by African Chieftans. Africans were not hunted or rounded up like animals, they were captured by warring tribes, and sold as servants and slaves. Why did they practice this? Well for one, Africa really didn't have any other exports of value. If you look at Africa today, it was largely developed by White European settlers who are today being run off their farms and murdered. So in all honesty, left to their own devices, Could Africa have developed on it's own? Without European settlers, Africa would be exactly the way it was some 300 years ago. More undeveloped, less civilized, more tribal wars, and no-exports save for slaves or wild animals. Africa is a toilet because that's what they know.

Africans have never developed, even today when a natural disaster strikes, who do they turn to? The United States, that's who. They send their people here to be educated. Their leaders come here to learn, only to return to their respective homelands as future oppressors. If there are reparations to be paid, it should be to Americans for paying for their education. We should be compensated for all the money the IMF, the World Bank, The United States Treasury, the missionairies we sent, the money and resources we have shipped to Africa that has been totally wasted as all Africans seem to do is rape each other, and spew children into the world because they are either incapable or unwilling to help themselves.

The above statement excludes South Africa, as they were European Settled, and have NOT needed anyone's help, although they could probably use some real moral support.

It's amazing to me how people in America think that since their ancestors suffered that they deserve something for nothing. I'm 1/8 Cherokee Indian and the rest is European. Should I be granted reparations for all of the Europeans who came here and plundered the land, all in the name of Manifest Destiny? Hmmm An interesting thought, since there were many Native Americans who sold their brothers out to the settlers. Not to mention, didn't the average slave get an Ox or mule and 40 acres of land as a reparation settlement? You see, that's a heck of a lot more than what my ancestors got. Of course you don't see Native Americans going after major corporations for a payoff now do you? You see Native Americans getting educations, and taking care of their own.

I had a German Grandfather, and you know of all the people I wish I had gotten to know better, he was a better American than any of these money seeking con-men who are perpetrating the biggets lie in history. If this goes through, I will leave America today. I will move all of my assets out of this country, and leave it behind. Sure it's a nice place, but the lies and treachery are too much for me anymore. This is not the America that I grew up thinking existed. Now that I'm an adult, in my 30's I have seen more lies, deceit, treachery, and TREASON in this country in the last 10 years than I have read about in History.

I'd invite Jesse Jackson to have a debate with me in person some day. As a White Male, in my 30's who's also 1/8 Cherokee Indian, I'd like to ask him where his race is so special, that they deserve something my ancestors who lived here first weren't worthy to receive? Who are the black race to judge anyone on their content of character? Jesse Jackson of all people should ask himself this question as he knows he sold out Martin Luther King to an assassin. Who is he to tell me that I owe his people something when his own people in Africa STILL practice slavery? Where has he and his so called Rainbow Push Coalition been when the people of Africa suffer in poverty? Where has Jesse Been when it comes to taking care of his own personal affairs? Who is he to think himself the moral authority when he himself cannot speak an honest word to his own wife?

Who are the black race to tell others how they are owed, when their own kind betrayed them in their own homeland? When you have good answers Jesse Jackson, you e-mail me. Let me know why it is that I must pay for your own people's treachery?

34 posted on 03/26/2002 6:01:39 AM PST by MadRobotArtist
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To: MadRobotArtist
There was a promise of 40 acres and a mule but it never happened.
35 posted on 03/26/2002 6:18:52 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: MadRobotArtist
When you debate Jesse, don't use the Emancipation Proclimation. It didn't free all slaves.
36 posted on 03/26/2002 6:34:00 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: itsahoot
What insurance company would take such a risk, what with the beatings and lynchings and all.

Ageed. There is something peculiar about the institution of slavery. How many times have we heard that slaves were miserably treated, when the opposite was probably true. Afterall, what property owner would abuse his means of prodution? It just doens't make any economic sense. Slaves were not cheap, and not many were able to afford them. If I were a slave owner, I would make sure that my slaves were healthy and well treated, and would do whatever was necessary to safeguard my investment in them.

37 posted on 03/26/2002 6:36:40 AM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: kattracks
I consider Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams possessed of three of the finest minds extant today. In case you don’t know them, all are black.

But I believe Keyes, Sowell and Williams would oppose calls for reparations.

The modern descendants of slaves brought here in chains in admittedly miserable, soul-gutting conditions who are now calling for reparations need to remember a few things:

They should not only be glad to be in America, they should be glad to be ANYWHERE !

Had that NOT happened, the blood of their ancestors would have run into the earth over there several centuries ago and these modern day would-be "plaintiffs" would not even exist.

And should the great-great-great grandchildren of the approximately 3,000 SLAVE OWNING BLACK plantation owners in this country also be subject to PAYING these reparations?

If so, how do we find THEM?

Robert Hitt Neill tells of attending a Tennessee Mountain Writer’s Conference years ago with several other authors. Among them was Alex Hailey, celebrated author of “Roots.” Watching a TV news show, a group of them watched a demonstration in a Southern state against the “Rebel” flag incorporated into that state’s flag. The very next report covered a famine in Africa. Graphic images showed dead bodies, starving children with distended tummies and runny noses and dying people covered with flies, too weak to brush them away.

Mr. Hailey intoned in a low, serious voice:
“Every time an American black sees a story like that, they should find a Confederate flag and kiss it.” He then pointed to the TV screen and continued, “Because these would be me and my descendants, except for American slavery. I thank God that my family and I are here instead of there.”

Next problem!

38 posted on 03/26/2002 6:41:16 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: kattracks
NO EX POST FACTO!
39 posted on 03/26/2002 6:56:09 AM PST by Maedhros
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To: Hillary's Folly; Tumbleweed_Connection; kattracks


40 posted on 03/26/2002 7:00:38 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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