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THE OSCARS!!! Live Thread.... Hosted by The GUILD.
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Posted on 03/24/2002 1:25:38 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: Yehuda;RJayneJ
Thanks, Yehuda.

Jayne, check out post #2098

2,261 posted on 03/25/2002 1:38:18 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: doug from upland
"Why did it take them so long?"

Well Doug, there is a question of the math. There's, what, 5 individual awards? There's about 250-300 films released a year. How many mainstream black actors are cast in those films as leads? The odds have always been against black actors winning both best male and female in the same year.

Then you could say there just aren't many good leads written for blacks because of Hollywood's racism, but then you need to factor in the black percentage of the population - about 12%, and realize movies are a business which needs to appeal to the widest audience.

I don't see Hollywood holding anyone back. If anything, they go out of their way to absolve themselves of their liberal guilt with every chance they get. Some of it good - some of it bad. My problem with Hollywood is the ungrateful unpatriotic and ignorant behavior of its denizens. Did you catch Kevin Spacey when he called the "...thousands who died...heroes"? Yes, we lost alot of cops and firemen, but he was referring to the mass of poor working slobs who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. They still don't understand the word. And where was reference to the Pentagon on the back of whoopie's jacket?

Hollywood can kiss my rear, I'm glad I'm no longer associated with those self-absorbed idiots.

2,262 posted on 03/25/2002 2:11:14 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: lawgirl
Russell was robbed....best supporting actress, direstor, and film.....exactly why did they win...because of Russell.
This is so political in Hollyweird...you don't like a movie so much to vote it best picture and then turn down the actor who made it what it was.
2,263 posted on 03/25/2002 2:37:44 AM PST by mystery-ak
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To: mystery-ak
The ironic part of "A Beatiful Mind" is that the ONLY reason it worked as well as it did was because of Russell Crowe's performance. And he was the only one who did not win! He knew it and he had every right to be pissed off.
2,264 posted on 03/25/2002 6:08:55 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy; Hillary's Lovely Legs; BigWaveBetty; Billie; Mountaineer; Timeout; Clancyj; daisyscarlett...
I'd like to thank The Guild ® for taking over Free Republic yesterday with their 2000+ post thread on the Academy Awards. :-)

But it was an honor just to start a thread on the same day.

What we need, I guess, over here at "Crusty the Pantsuit": A Shrine to the Woman in Black ®, is a Joan Rivers to tell us what Hillary is wearing:

Joan: "We're here at Capitol Hill, waiting for the arrival of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. I think I see her limousine now."

(Limousine pulls up to the curb, knocking down a security guard.)

Joan: "Sen. Clinton is getting out now. What's that she's wearing today, Melissa? It looks like . . . a black pantsuit!"

Melissa: "Looks like a black pantsuit to me."

Joan: "But the thing is, look what she's wearing with it! Call me crazy, but I could swear that's a mauve blouse! Yesterday it was fuchsia! What's up with that?"

Melissa: "I--"

Joan: "Wait! Sen. Clinton is coming over this way! I'll try to ask her. . . . Sen. Clinton! Sen. Clinton! Can we talk? Why the sudden change in blouse col--"

Hillary: "Out of my way, you f*ck*ng Jew b*st*rd!"

Joan (picking herself up and yelling at Mrs. Clinton as she enters the Capitol): "Hey, same to you, you freakin' shiksa! And another thing: Ask your Botox guy for your money back!"

2,265 posted on 03/25/2002 6:55:05 AM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: oldvike
You missed Chinese. <grin>
2,266 posted on 03/25/2002 7:09:37 AM PST by Rose in RoseBear
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To: ValerieUSA
The contortions you must put reality through to stand beside Halle as sistahs are amazing. You should join the Cirque de Soleil.

What reality. Get a grip- Halle looks Bblack, thinks of herself as Black and is regarded by the world as Black. Just what part of that don't you understand? Who has a problem with reality up in here?

2,267 posted on 03/25/2002 7:40:08 AM PST by mafree
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To: oldvike
my beef is with some who now want to chalk it up to affirmative action just because the winner is Black.

I'll do no such thing. Denzel won because he played a new type of character this year. A thug. He usually plays a good guy and was able to totally transform himself for this one role and do it wonderfully. That showed what a great actor he is and thus cemented his victory. Having said that, I still say that he should have won best actor for "Remember the Titans" 2 years ago.

You're right- some of the best acting jobs are when an actor plays a character that goes against his image or prior roles. I recall actors like Ray Milland winning when they went against type.

2,268 posted on 03/25/2002 7:42:50 AM PST by mafree
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To: OneidaM, rbmillerjr
based on what you are saying...it would be fair for me to say that all you have accomplished has been due to you being a preferenced minority. Is that really the chip you want to bear?

You sound almost like someone else who used to ride mafree about a chip she had...I don't always agree with mafree,,but I always look forward to her posts..

Glad you're on this thread. It's amazing how some want to accuse you of having a chip on your shoulder just because you're Black and glad that someone else Black attained something good. Wassup with that?

2,269 posted on 03/25/2002 7:46:19 AM PST by mafree
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To: budwiesest
Approximately fifty million bucks will now be spent on the best picture chosen (on average). Halle and Denzel will now command twenty million each to appear on any future set.

Does this mean that Berry and Washington are now semi-retired? That H'wood will be able to afford to offer them each only one or two scripts a year from now until the sparkle wears off?

2,270 posted on 03/25/2002 7:46:34 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: mafree
I agree -- Denzel Washington played against type, and went over the top. He deserved it.
2,271 posted on 03/25/2002 7:47:44 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: latina4dubya
... it's a matter of opinion... in my opinion, Russell was ripped off...

You're entitled to feel that way and frankly, Denzel has turned in some better acting jobs that he didn't win an Oscar for. I also agree with you that it'd be nice to give out Oscars just for talent and nothing else.

2,272 posted on 03/25/2002 7:48:03 AM PST by mafree
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
If these "actors" really think they are important and the center of the earth, I have a suggestion for next year to test this theory:

ANNOUNCE THE BEST PICTURE, Best Actor, Actress, and supporting roles all in the first half hour of the show.

I'll bet viewership drops by 90% after the first 30 minutes.

 

2,273 posted on 03/25/2002 7:49:00 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: rbmillerjr
and I do hope the NAACP will do less complaining about how Blacks are treated at Oscar time.

...for being into the whole race perpetuating thing, you're not very politically astute about race politics,,,,,,,of course the Naacp will cry and whine at the next focal point of opression. We are nearly 40 years past CRA64...and Halle thinks she just refused to give up her seat. What an insult to Rosa Parks.

Excuse me but I've forgotten more about race politics than you'll ever know.

Yes, we are more than 40 years past CRA 64 but in the context of this thread, the bigger shame is that we're more than 60 years past the first acting award given to a Black actress. If you have a problem with Halle or anyone else acknowledging that take it up with the Academy, not us.

2,274 posted on 03/25/2002 7:51:11 AM PST by mafree
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To: Sir Gawain
That's happened more than once in Oscar history- my beef is with some who now want to chalk it up to affirmative action just because the winner is Black.

Well you can thank affirmative action for the kneejerk reaction many people have whenever they see a black succeed.

No, I'll thank ignorance and prejudice for such kneejerk reactions.

2,275 posted on 03/25/2002 7:53:31 AM PST by mafree
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To: Restorer
Accurate observation....I wonder the same thing....I don't think environmental conditioning explains it.
2,276 posted on 03/25/2002 7:54:19 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: Sir Gawain
Is Tiger Woods black?

He looks Black enough to me and I'd have no problem with him saying that he is. Tiger doesn't think of himself as Black only but he could if he wanted to and others do think of him that way, including Fuzzy Zoeller.

2,277 posted on 03/25/2002 7:56:26 AM PST by mafree
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To: StarFan
Good Black folks on FR don't remind everyone of past or present racism? Well I guess that excludes you as I've yet to read a thread where you are not constantly harping on the issue.

You need to get out more or maybe it's that your memory is very selective regarding my FR posts.

2,278 posted on 03/25/2002 7:57:32 AM PST by mafree
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To: rbmillerjr
It's the acceptance speech that bows down to the liberal leftist viewpoint on race and the view that somehow her Oscar validates black women as finally getting their due and throwing off the mystical yoke of oppression - her pathetic performance wasnt in the movie but in her acceptance speech. It was one Jessie would be proud of.

If mafree can reconcile that with being a conservative, then she should run for office.

I may or may not ever run for office but one thing I won't do is deny the fact that race often matters.

2,279 posted on 03/25/2002 8:01:39 AM PST by mafree
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To: rbmillerjr
Actually Nicole Kidman deserved to win by busting her ribs to play in Moulin Rouge.

Halle's performance was just a bit over the top for a poor southern woman, I just didn't see it as realistic

2,280 posted on 03/25/2002 8:04:57 AM PST by codebreaker
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