Posted on 03/24/2002 12:10:45 PM PST by Phil V.
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On the fourth day of Pesach, 18 Nisan 5762 (Sunday, 31 March, 2002), The Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement will hold their annual Pesach Sacrifice and Pilgrimage to the Temple Mount and will bring the Omer offering (the first barley from the fields of Israel). The offering will be cut from the fields of Israel and will be carried by the pilgrims as an offering to the G-d of Israel exactly as was done in the time of the First and Second Temples according to the Word of G-d in the Torah: "And the L-rd spoke to Moses, saying, Speak to the people of Israel, and say to them, When you come to the land which I give to you, and shall reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the first fruits of your harvest to the priest; And he shall wave the sheaf before the L-rd, to be accepted for you; on the next day after the sabbath the priest shall wave it. And you shall offer that day when you wave the sheaf a male lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering to the L-rd. And the meal offering of it shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mixed with oil, an offering made by fire to the L-rd for a sweet savour; and the drink offering of it shall be of wine, the fourth part of a hin. And you shall eat nor bread, nor parched grain, nor green ears, until the same day that you have brought an offering to your G-d; it shall be a statute forever throughout your generations in all your dwellings." (Leviticus 23:9-14) "You shall not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven; nor shall the sacrifice of the Feast of the Passover be left to the morning. The first of the first fruits of your land you shall bring to the house of the L-rd your G-d." (Exodus 34:25,26a) For the second time since the destruction of the Second Temple, the model of the temple will be brought to the Temple Mount by the Faithful Movement. These Pesach events of the Temple Mount Faithful Movement will take place at a very critical time in the land of Israel. Yasser Arafat and his bands of terrorists continue to murder Jews on a daily basis in the streets of Israel in terrorist attacks. They murder only because the victims are Jews and because they believe that in this way they can destroy the land of Israel. As we are writing this (8 Nisan 5762/21 January 2002) a bomb has exploded in the middle of Jerusalem. Details that have been released at this stage is that two Jews were murdered and at least 40 innocent Israeli civilians who were busy with their Pesach preparations were injured. Only yesterday, seven Israelis were killed when a suicide bomber blew himself up on a bus. These murderers never cease thirsting for Jewish blood. Today’s terrible terror attack illustrates the situation in Israel. On one hand Israel continues the G-dly building for redemption of the people and land of Israel and to prepare for the building of the temple, the house of G-d, and the coming of Mashiach ben David. On the other hand satan and his messengers are intensively busy with their efforts to prevent the redemption of Israel and to fight against the G-d of Israel and His children. They are deluded if they believe that they can succeed in this. As with all the enemies of Israel they will soon be judged by the G-d of Israel and will disappear from the history of the holy land of Israel and all the world. The people of Israel are strong. Together with the G-d of Israel we shall defeat satan and his messengers exactly as has happened over the last 54 years since the foundation of the State of Israel. They will try to destroy us but we shall continue to build the kingdom of G-d in the holy land that He gave to Israel. The pilgrimage to the Temple Mount on Israel's three pilgrim festivals were the most exciting events in the life of the people of Israel when they came to the hill of G-d and to the temple to meet the G-d of Israel and as He said, to see Him and to be seen by Him. During Pesach they brought the Pesach sacrifice from all the corners of the land of Israel and the omer, the first wheat from the fields, as an offering for the G-d of Israel before they started to eat the wheat or the fruits of the ground and the first of their flocks and herds. They did the same at the feasts of Shavuot and Tabernacles when they brought the first fruits of the ground and trees as an offering to G-d to thank Him for the blessings which He had poured out on them in their holy land. When all the people of Israel met on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem during these pilgrimages they felt what G-d commanded them to be, the united nation of the G-d of Israel. It was one of the most unique events to see all the people of Israel walking on the fields of Israel and even from far places, carrying the offerings for G-d with their faces towards Jerusalem, the city that they loved so much, and the temple on the hill which was for them their heart, soul and eternal focus for the one reason: that the G-d of Israel dwelt there. The Pesach sacrifice was, perhaps, the most important and exciting sacrifice throughout the history of Israel. It expressed the deliverance of Israel from Egypt by G-d and the formation of Israel as one nation, the nation of G-d. According to the Word of G-d in the Torah, this sacrifice is to be an eternal sacrifice. It is to be made by every individual or family on the evening of the 14th day of Nisan on the altar in the temple and be eaten in a special gathering and ceremony which is held by families or groups called a Seder. It is to be eaten before midnight on the night of the Seder. It is to be eaten only on the Temple Mount or in Jerusalem. The Pesach Seder is celebrated in Israel until today as well as in all other Jewish communities all over the world. As the temple is still in ruins, each family places a piece of lamb or a chicken on the Seder plate as a memorial of the Pesach sacrifice and in order not to forget that it should soon be renewed in the rebuilt temple. Pesach is celebrated for seven days. The first and last days are days of rest on which no work is allowed to be done. For the full period, nobody is allowed to eat leavened bread (chametz), only matzot exactly as G-d commanded Israel: "And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover of the L-rd. And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast; seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten. In the first day shall be a holy gathering; you shall do no manner of labour in it; But you shall offer a sacrifice made by fire for a burnt offering to the L-rd; two young bulls, and one ram, and seven lambs of the first year; they shall be to you without blemish; And their meal offering shall be of flour mixed with oil; three tenth measures shall you offer for a bull, and two tenth measures for a ram; A tenth measure shall you offer for every lamb, for the seven lambs. And one goat for a sin offering, to make an atonement for you. You shall offer these beside the burnt offering in the morning, which is for a continual burnt offering. After this ordinance you shall offer daily, throughout the seven days, the food of the sacrifice made by fire, of a sweet savour to the L-rd; it shall be offered beside the continual burnt offering, and its drink offering. And on the seventh day you shall have a holy gathering; you shall do no labour." (Numbers 28:16-25) The commandment of G-d in the Torah states very clearly: "Observe the month of Abib, and keep the Passover to the L-rd your G-d; for in the month of Abib the L-rd your G-d brought you out of Egypt by night. You shall therefore sacrifice the Passover to the L-rd your G-d, of the flock and the herd, in the place which the L-rd shall choose to place his name there. You shall eat no leavened bread with it; seven days shall you eat unleavened bread with it, the bread of affliction; for you came out of the land of Egypt in haste; that you may remember the day when you came out of the land of Egypt all the days of your life. And there shall be no leavened bread seen with you in all your border seven days; neither shall there any thing of the meat, which you sacrificed the first day at the evening, remain all night until the morning. You may not sacrifice the Passover inside any of your gates, which the L-rd your G-d gives you; But at the place which the L-rd your G-d shall choose to place his name in, there you shall sacrifice the Passover at the evening, at the going down of the sun, in the season when you came out of Egypt. And you shall roast and eat it in the place which the L-rd your G-d shall choose; and you shall turn in the morning, and go to your tents. Six days you shall eat unleavened bread; and on the seventh day shall be a solemn assembly to the L-rd your G-d; you shall do no work in it." (Deuteronomy16:1-8) In Jewish tradition, the month of Nisan is called the month of redemption. This tradition holds that Israel was redeemed in Nisan at Pesach and they will again be redeemed in Nisan at Pesach. Every year the Jewish people prayed and expected to be redeemed again in this month. Our prayers follow this month for a complete redemption of Israel, for the rebuilding of the temple and the coming of Mashiach ben David. On this holiday of redemption it will be so powerfully symbolic when we again carry the model of the temple to the Temple Mount together with the architectural plans for the Third Temple. This event will be a message firstly to the G-d of Israel and secondly to the people of Israel that we are ready for the rebuilding of the temple and that this is G-d’s timing for this. It will also be a clear message to the Arab enemies of Israel and all the nations who support them that pagan worship can no longer continue on the holy mountain of G-d and that the do not have any ability to prevent the G-d of Israel from redeeming His holy mountain according to His end-time plans. Preparations are being made to perform a Pesach sacrifice on the Temple Mount on 14th Nisan, Wednesday 27th March in accordance with the commandment of the G-d of Israel to His people in the Torah. We hope and pray that the Israeli Authorities will be strong enough and obedient to the Word of G-d and will open the gates of the Temple Mount and allow us to perform the Pesach sacrifice. We hope that the Israeli Authorities will not give in to the pressure of the major world powers and the threats of the enemies of Israel, and that despite the situation in Israel they will trust the G-d of Israel and His promises to stand with Israel against all her enemies and His commandment to Israel not to be afraid of anybody who comes against Israel As we said, on 31 March at 10:00 AM, The Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement will march to the Temple Mount for the pilgrimage and to bring the omer as an offering to the G-d of Israel. We shall also pray the holiday prayers and swear faithfulness to the G-d of Israel, to His holy mountain, to Jerusalem and to the land of Israel. Our statement will be that we shall not allow the Temple Mount, the heart of the Israeli nation, to fall again. It will also be a march of sovereignty and loyalty with the blowing of shofars. We shall also demonstrate asking that the barbaric destruction and removal of the holy remains of the First and Second Temples be immediately stopped. On the Temple Mount we shall renew the eternal covenant between G-d, Israel and the promised land. Then we shall march around the walls of the Temple Mount and blow the shofars exactly as Joshua ben Nun did at Jericho in order to bring down the walls of hatred against the G-d and people of Israel. We shall demand of the Israeli Government that the holy gates of the Temple Mount will immediately be opened and with them the way for Mashiach ben David, that they will purify the Temple Mount from the pagan presence and worship, rebuild the temple and fly the flag of the G-d and people of Israel over it. We shall state that we shall never move again from this most holy place of Israel. This important, historic and exciting event will be another important step in the campaign of The Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement for the rebuilding of the temple and for the fulfilment of G-d's prophetic end-time plans in the life of this generation. Nobody can prevent this historical G-dly march and soon we shall see the G-dly fulfilment. In G-d and His promises we trust! Everyone in Israel and all over the world is called on to come and participate in this G-dly event. It will be a great privilege and blessing for everyone to have a part in this prophetic, G-dly, end-time event. Everybody is called on to assist and stand together with The Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement in her historic, G-dly campaign and struggle to bring the G-d of Israel and His holy values to the centre of the life of Israel and all mankind in His rebuilt house. We wish everyone Hag Sameach and a holiday of redemption and G-d's blessings upon Israel and all her wonderful friends all over the world and on all mankind.
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That does seem to be the argument presented on this thread. Confounding, isn't it?
You need to research Rabbinic Law and it's views on animal sacrifice. I believe that you will find that absent the appropriate place as directed by G_d there CANNOT be animal sacrifice. There has not been an appropriate place for sacrifice since the destruction of the Temple. These End-Timers, it is my understanding, ARE NOT practicing the "accepted" religion. I believe most Jews will agree with my interpretation WRT animal sacrifice.
Please place your pedantic pissiness elsewhere.
Just a point of information-
There are still sacrificial offerings made with out the temple. The first offering is made prior to Yom Kippur. This is made in the form of a chicken: slaughtered as an exchange for the sins of the past year. The name of the offering is called "Kapporot".
As to the prohibitions of sacrifice due to the destruction of the temple, it has been instituted to recite the order of sacrifice in prayer every day. This is done along with the proxcribed study of the practical requirements of animal sacrifice. It is preparation for the time in the future for when the temple will be rebuilt.
There is ample source to cite for the prophecy of the rebuilding of the temple. The redeemer is said to possibly come in a great war. It does not necessarily have to be war, but it could. Many scholars believe that all the prophetic requirements have been met and that the redemption is very near.
As I made plain from my first message, I and most Rabbis are opposed to the groups position as a matter of Jewish law. However, there is some room in law for this incorrect and divergent opinion. I am not going to cite their references and my refutations of those references here. This is not a religion on the line group.
We are supposedly considering matters from a religious neutral position. They maintain that they have an obligation for their practices and have some scholars to justify their position. Being that it is their right to exercise their religion as freely as the Muslims exercise theirs, I find it appalling that you defend the Muslims' right to worship freely while denying the same to the Jews. I find that the worst type of Jew hatred to be found on FR. Repent while there is still time.
I don't think Phil V has a problem with Israelis exercising their rights anywhere and anyhow they wish on Israeli territory.
He does seem to feel that Israelis celebrating exclusivist rituals on illegally occupied territory is an arrogant and imprudent course of action likely to lead to further bloodshed. In which, of course, he is right.
REBDOV - - - Listen, you Torah ignoramus, you have no business lecturing me nor anyone else about Rabbinic law. You have never studied it and are incompetent . . .Repent while there is still time.
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Qorbanot: Sacrifices and OfferingsLevel: Advanced For a long time I was reluctant to write a page on the subject of qorbanot, because it is a subject with little practical application today. However, I felt I had to address these issues, because it is one of the two subjects I receive the most questions about. Interestingly, the questions I receive on this subject are invariably from non-Jews. Most Jews don't seem to have much interest in ancient practices no longer observed. I will begin by answering the questions I am most commonly asked on these subjects, and then proceed to a more comprehensive discussion of the subject of qorbanot. Frequently Asked Questions
QorbanotIn ancient times, a major component of Jewish ritual was the offering of qorbanot. An entire order of the Talmud (Kodashim, that is, Holy Things) is devoted to the subject. The word "qorbanot" is usually translated as "sacrifices" or "offerings"; however, both of these terms suggest a loss of something or a giving up of something, and although that is certainly a part of the ritual, that is not at all the literal meaning of the Hebrew word. The word qorbanot comes from the root Qof-Resh-Bet, which means "to draw near," and indicates the primary purpose of offerings: to draw us near to G-d. Parts of the rituals involved in the offering of qorbanot were performed exclusively by the kohanim (priests). These rituals were only performed in the Temple in Jerusalem. The procedures could not be performed by anyone else, and could not be performed in any other place. Because the Temple no longer exists, we can no longer offer qorbanot. There are three basic concepts underlying qorbanot. The first the aspect of giving. A qorban requires the renunciation of something that belongs to the person making the offering. Thus, sacrifices are made from domestic animals, not wild animals (because wild animals do not belong to anyone). Likewise, offerings of food are ordinarily in the form of flour or meal, which requires substantial work to prepare. Another important concept is the element of substitution. The idea is that the thing being offered is a substitute for the person making the offering, and the things that are done to the offering are things that should have been done to the person offering. The offering is in some sense "punished" in place of the offerer. It is interesting to note that whenever the subject of qorbanot is addressed in the Torah, the name of G-d used is the four-letter name indicating G-d's mercy. The third important concept is the idea coming closer. The essence of sacrifice is to bring a person closer to G-d. Purposes of QorbanotContrary to popular belief, the purpose of qorbanot is not simply to obtain forgiveness from sin. Although many qorbanot have the effect of expiating sins, there are many other purposes for bringing qorbanot, and the expiatory effect is often incidental, and is subject to significant limitations. Certain qorbanot are brought purely for the purpose of communing with G-d and becoming closer to Him. Others are brought for the purpose of expressing thanks to G-d, love or gratitude. Others are used to cleanse a person of ritual impurity (which does not necessarily have anything to do with sin). And yes, many qorbanot are brought for purposes of atonement. The atoning aspect of qorbanot is carefully circumscribed. For the most part, qorbanot only expiate unintentional sins, that is, sins committed because a person forgot that this thing was a sin. No atonement is needed for violations committed under duress or through lack of knowledge, and for the most part, qorbanot cannot atone for a malicious, deliberate sin. In addition, qorbanot have no expiating effect unless the person making the offering sincerely repents his or her actions before making the offering, and makes restitution to any person who was harmed by the violation. Types of QorbanotThere are many different types of qorbanot, and the laws related to them are detailed and complicated. This section will merely introduce some of the major types of qorbanot, their names and their characteristics. There are many subtypes within these classifications, and some other types that do not fit neatly into these categories. Olah: Burnt OfferingPerhaps the best-known class of offerings is the burnt offering. It was the oldest and commonest sacrifice, and represented submission to G-d's will. The Hebrew word for burnt offering is olah, from the root Ayin-Lamed-Heh, meaning ascension. It is the same root as the word aliyah, which is used to describe moving to Israel or ascending to the podium to say a blessing over the Torah. An olah is completely burnt on the outer altar; no part of it is eaten by anyone. Because the offering represents complete submission to G-d's will, the entire offering is given to G-d (i.e., it cannot be used after it is burnt). It expresses a desire to commune with G-d, and expiates sins incidentally in the process (because how can you commune with G-d if you are tainted with sins?). An olah could be made from cattle, sheep, goats, or even birds, depending on the offerer's means. Zebach Sh'lamim: Peace OfferingA peace offering is an offering expressing thanks or gratitude to G-d for His bounties and mercies. The Hebrew term for this type of offering is zebach sh'lamim (or sometimes just sh'lamim), which is related to the word shalom, meaning "peace" or "whole." A representative portion of the offering is burnt on the altar, a portion is given to the kohanim, and the rest is eaten by the offerer and his family; thus, everyone gets a part of this offering. This category of offerings includes thanksgiving-offerings (in Hebrew, Todah, which was obligatory for survivors of life-threatening crises), free will-offerings, and offerings made after fulfillment of a vow. Note that this class of offerings has nothing to do with sin; in fact, the Talmud states that in the age of the messiah (when there is no more sin), this will be the only class of offering that is brought to the Temple. Chatat: Sin OfferingA sin offering is an offering to atone for and purge a sin. It is an expression of sorrow for the error and a desire to be reconciled with G-d. The Hebrew term for this type of offering is chatat, from the word chayt, meaning "missing the mark." A chatat could only be offered for unintentional sins committed through carelessness, not for intentional, malicious sins. The size of the offering varied according to the nature of the sin and the financial means of the sinner. Some chatatot are individual and some are communal. Communal offerings represent the interdependence of the community, and the fact that we are all responsible for each others' sins. A few special chatatot could not be eaten, but for the most part, for the average person's personal sin, the chatat was eaten by the kohanim. Asham: Guilt OfferingA guilt offering is an offering to atone for sins of stealing things from the altar, for when you are not sure whether you have committed a sin or what sin you have committed, or for breach of trust. The Hebrew word for a guilt offering is asham. When there was doubt as to whether a person committed a sin, the person would make an asham, rather than a chatat, because bringing a chatat would constitute admission of the sin, and the person would have to be punished for it. If a person brought an asham and later discovered that he had in fact committed the sin, he would have to bring a chatat at that time. An asham was eaten by the kohanim. Food and Drink OfferingsA meal offering (minchah) represented the devotion of the fruits of man's work to G-d, because it was not a natural product, but something created through man's effort. A representative piece of the offering was burnt on the fire of the altar, but the rest was eaten by the kohanim. There are also offerings of undiluted wine, referred to as nesekh. Parah Adumah: The Red HeiferSome time in 1997, a red heifer was born in Israel. This birth received quite a bit of press coverage, and I received many questions asking about the significance of it. The ritual of the red heifer (in Hebrew, parah adumah) is part of one of the most mysterious rituals described in the Torah. The purpose of this ritual is to purify people from the defilement caused by contact with the dead. The ritual is discussed in Numbers 19. If you find it difficult to understand, don't feel bad; the sages themselves described it as beyond human understanding. What is so interesting about this ritual is that it purifies the impure, but it also renders the pure impure (i.e., everybody who participates in the ritual becomes impure). It is believed by many that this ritual will be performed by the messiah when he comes, because we have all suffered the defilement of contact with the dead. Thus, the existence of a red heifer is a possible, but not definite, sign of the messiah. If the messiah were coming, there would be a red heifer, but there could be a red heifer without the messiah coming. I have not heard any definitive word on whether the animal born in Israel satisfies all the requirements of a parah adumah (e.g., that it be without spot, without blemish, and that it has never been yoked). © Copyright 5756-5760 (1995-1999), Tracey R Rich |
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Yom Kippur, The Day of Atonement, falls on the eve of the tenth day of Tishrei. That’s when the fast begins too. It’s a big one… twenty-five+ hours!. This year (2001), Yom Kippur starts at sundown, Wednesday, September 26th, and ends Thursday evening, September 27th. It is the most solemn day of the year, a day of fasting and prayers, and is only celebrated one day everywhere. (Could you imagine having to fast two days in a row?).
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KAPPOROT
A Minhag (custom) observed on the morning before Yom Kippur is Kapparot (Atonement). (Kapporot may also be observed on any weekday of the Aseret Ymay Tshuva.) You purchase a live chicken, (a white rooster for a male and a white hen for a female), and you revolve the chicken around your head reciting a prayer asking that the chicken be considered atonement for your sins. The chicken is then slaughtered and given to the poor (or its value is given). Kapparot may also be done with money instead of a chicken.
http://www.torahtots.com/holidays/yomkipur/yomkstr.htm
Had I begun my commentary regarding this up-coming event with a profession of astonishment over the "barbaric" practice of animal sacrifice I predict that a HUGE NUMBER of Observant Freepers would have jumped in with the facts regarding the fringe nature of the Temple Mount Faithful - how they DO NOT represent the average Jew - how my "buying into" the animal sacrifice thing was just one more example of "Phil V.'s anti-Semitism" - not far removed from that old canard of drinking the blood . . . . . . and on, and on, and on. . ..
There is just no way to get out of this thing. Go ahead and light the fuse!
The pools of poison deepen daily. I despair for that people.
My goodness phil, the reinstatement of the order of sacrifice is accepted by every observant Jew on the planet. The Temple Mount faithful are activists in a foolish way, but the desire for the return of this practice is a basic tenet of Judaism.
Does that disturb you? I don't accuse you of being a Jew-hater. You do seem like a lot of liberal tree huggers I know though. Tell me, did you join the protests against the WTO in Washington? Are you a Sierra Club activist? Did you vote for Al Gore?
Just curious phil.
No. . . Quite to the contrary. Which puts me again in a tight fix . . . The envir-wakos are a hot topic of discussion here on FreeRepublic. I have ranted my share of rants over the seeming replacement of Communism by the Greens and enviros. But who are the movers and shakers? One of the MAJOR components of the environmental movement is the "heal the earth" aspect of Judaism. It gets sticky!
I WAS in Oregon last summer assisting the farmers at the Headgates . . .
Furthermore, Israel did not take any land from the Palestinians. The Palestinians had no land and have never had any. Israel took land from Jordan, Syria, and Egypt, which had occupied them for nearly twenty years. Was it also "illegal" for Jordan and Egypt to control the territories? Why do you suppose there was no international or Palestinian outcry about that "illegality"?
Before that, these lands were under primarily British control; the British took them from the Turks; the Turks took them from the old Arab Caliphate, which took them from the Byzantines. You can take it back further if you want, but then there will be no Arabs in the picture at all. Were all those siezures of the land "illegal"? How far back shall we go to set it straight? What you will not find in this history, by the way, is any point at which the land was held "legally" by "Palestinians."
By every traditional understanding of the law of war, territory acquired in the prosecution of a just defensive war against an aggressor is rightly acquired. What is remarkable is not that Israel still holds the territories, but that it has not simply annexed them, as Jordan annexed the West Bank in - what was it? - 1952 or there abouts.
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And by your involvement with opposite group in Klamath Falls it is almost an opposite point of view. I guess that might be chalked up to a thinking person's perceptions, but it is indeed curious.
As a rule, IMHO pacifism in the middle east has never worked. Matter of fact, a very good argument can be made that the Jews' troubles only multiplied as negotiations have begun and continued. We have to agree to disagree on this.
The Temple Mount is the Temple mount no game playing allowed. It has been a sacred Jewish site for about 4000 years. If anyone is illegally occupying the site, it would be the Muslim entity.
But why not be honest. You think Jews have no claim on any territory. Have you insisted that France and Germany return land that was German in history and culture for a thousand years? Why is it only Israel that must pay the price of United Nations Neo-Morality?
Your handle is a disgrace to objectivists everywhere.
The Sacrifical Lamb
Preparing the Sacrifice 
The Sacrifice 
Amazin' how pivotal TEXAS is to this great day, Sunday!
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