Kenneth Starr to lead legal team challenging campaign finance legislation

Associated Press ^ | 3-21-02 | JIM ABRAMS

[Oldeconomybuyer]

WASHINGTON (AP) --

[TerryInRiverside]

Yes, Ken Starr, Larry klayman, Robert Ray and Micky Mouse should join forces and challenge CFR. Just think of all the collective brain power. They seem to have a common theme, and that is they don't ever win. That's what we like evidently!

[Don Joe]

"Oh, the venerable Mr.. Starr, huh? THAT dog don't hunt."

Hunt? That dog won't even bark!

Who is responsible for hiring that worthless excuse for a litigator to stand in the breach and defend the First Amendment???

[BeAChooser]

Get a life, BAC. Nobody cares.

Wrong sinkspur. Only you and the move-on'ers don't care.

I suppose you have your reasons. I just wonder if they have to do with being charter members of the democRAT party.

[BeAChooser]

Yes.....

How can you say that without answering the questions I asked? Why did he allow those illegal files to remain in democRAT hands? Hummmmm?

[Don Joe]

"During the nomination hearings, the Demoncrats put Ashcroft's nuts in a vice and made him promise to defend and enforce Federal laws. Senate Rats were worried Ashcroft would renege on enforcing laws he didnt like (namely cr*p like using RICO against prolife groups, Aff. Action etc.) ... so, Ashcroft has and will be defending some silly stuff. hopefully USSC will see past it."

So? So what. Bush promised to veto the bill, and he's gonna sign it. So, now that we've established the worth of a promise, I see no obligation for Ashcroft to run with this abortion.

[Don Joe]

(by focusing down his million-dollar mound of evidence to a glob of DNA-specific semen on the sink -- AND -- by his decision to prosecute a case of perjury re: the President's "personal life" ... thereby opening the door to BOTH George H. Bush's and Bob "Down Boy" Dole's protestations that actual removal on these grounds would sully the semen-stained office)

As a salesman, Starr ain't much of a closer.

[Don Joe]

What he said.

[BeAChooser]

forget about Clinton. he is history.

Really? Why is still getting paid 300000 a speech? Why is his wife a senator? Why are some of his closest friends in control of the DNC? Why are many of his staff still in government? And just where are the FBI files that Starr allowed him to keep YEARS after they were declared illegal for him to have?

[Don Joe]

"I bet Klayman files a suit to keep Starr off this case."

I know you're making a funny, but when I saw the news about Starr, my first thought was that the only one who would be worse for this would be Klayman.

[Don Joe]

"This is your brain on Pragmatism."

Or, "This is your chess board on 'dragging out the defense until the inevitable.'"

Throwing Ken Starr at this is going to be perceived by both ends of the spectrum as throwing in the towel and putting up a tortuous, but defeated from inception defense.

You don't pit Bob Dole against Bill Clinton, and you don't pit Ken Starr against The Machine, especially when the Bill of Rights is what's hanging in the balance.

At this point, the only remaining hope is the SCOTUS throwing a "mercy decision" our way out of sheer pity.

[Don Joe]

"He is going to be arguing the case in the Supreme Court, not the media. This is not necessarily a mistake."

Thank you for that fine example of whistling past the graveyard.

[Don Joe]

"I suspect a lot of knee-jerk naysayers will be pleasantly surprised when this is over."

Why? We'll get to die in our sleep instead of living out our years waiting on bread lines listening to endless streams of Officially Sanctioned News Media generated propaganda?

We've just licensed the right to "free" speech. And we did it using the "NYC Taxi Medallion" model.

We've all been relegated to the realm of the "samizdat" press. From this point forth, elections will be decided by the NYT, CBS, et al.

[jwalsh07]

At every hearing I saw, Ken Starr bitch-slapped every left wing Harvard hero they threw at him, it wasn't even close. Starr has an intellect that is head and shoulders above his critics. MHO, he is an excellent choice to present the case in the SC.

Now as a politician, he sucks, and in a street fight I would prefer my wife at my back, but standing in front of the 9 oldtimers in the bath robes, I'll trust Starr.

But, I'd feel better if he took Torie with him.

[Don Joe]

"Would you rather they hired David Boies?"

Disgusting as he is, at least we'd have stood a chance of winning.

[Don Joe]

"Ny second impression: Starr's name is acid among the media. It will certainly be used to demonize any attempt to block CFR."

Especially when you take into account the fact that this suit is a shot across the bow of the media's now-exclusive franchise on "free" speech.

We've just passed a law that requires a license to run a printing press. We've granted the exclusive licenses to the media. And now we've sent Ken "Yip yip!" Starr the Anklebiter-From-Some-Place-Kinda-Near-Hell-But-Not-Too-Hot.

Gee, I wonder what kind of spin the media might put on this?

[Askel5]

You don't pit Bob Dole against Bill Clinton, and you don't pit Ken Starr against The Machine, especially when the Bill of Rights is what's hanging in the balance.

READ MY LIPS: Or maybe you do.

[Don Joe]

"Oh, joy. Competence at work."

Learn to whisper those anti-patriotic statements. In pig latin. You never know when there might be an election 60 days down the road.

[Don Joe]

"The framers wrote the First Amendment FOR political speech!"

Ah, but we still have "policital speech" -- via the Official Media.

The First Amendment has just been licensed. Only "real" media need apply. For the rest of us, getting a "license to speak" will be just as easy as getting a "license to carry" in NYC.

[Pat Fish]

Let us let FOX Boxing settle this? Why not fight it out somewhere else and stop wasting our money?????

I mean, how much of a waste is this? Instead of congress just doing the sensible and adhering to the constitution which says "Congress shall make NO law .... abridging freedom of speech", they do it anyway. Now taxpayers have to pay high-powered lawyers to defend this stupid law Not to mention the time of whoever has to testify, draw up the papers...on and on.

I listened to Rush Limbaugh this afternoon. Rush is against CFR but is struggling with holding Bush's feet to the fire or giving him a pass. I don't recall anyone mentioning the unnecessary cost of this little exercise in stupidity.

I don't know why they couldn't just leave that bit out of it about the issue ads before elections. Just take the damn thing out. Why did it have to be there anyway? It's so blatently to protect the incumbents it makes me sick.

Like CFR flies under the radar of the average joe, so does this little trick by the congress critters.

Well I ain't buying it and I ain't giving Bush any slack. He could have walked out onto the national podium and given the American public a lesson in how it works. He was a coward and don't try to tell me different.

I'm not going to forget and no I'm not voting for Hillary next election.

I dunno, maybe I'll run for President they all make me so ill.

[Don Joe]

"He is a gentleman and a great legal mind."

And Bob Dole was an all around nice guy. And clinton ate him for lunch.

I have concluded that the Country Club wing of the GOP is absolutely incapable of bringing anything other than the Marquis of Queensbury rules to a streetfight.