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1 posted on 03/21/2002 12:56:40 PM PST by H.R. Gross
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John Sugg won an award from an Arab group for "proving" the book "Islamic Jihad" by Steven Emerson is a fraud (NPR is not a fan of Emerson either).Suggs is also connected to Jeff Cohen of FAIR. He is not a source I would quote for anything.
2 posted on 03/21/2002 1:07:21 PM PST by LarryLied
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Sounds like there's some government folks who are tired of this story being covered-up. Loose lips sink ships.
3 posted on 03/21/2002 1:07:32 PM PST by AshleyMontagu
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So where are the facts supporting these allegations? This is the same recycled bull that was posted 20x before.
4 posted on 03/21/2002 1:09:54 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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The ‘Israeli Art Student’ Papers? History repeats itself as farce, with Justin Raimondo in a starring role.


7 posted on 03/21/2002 1:17:17 PM PST by The Great Satan
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Even IF these Israelis were spies, how could their entering government office buildings, etc. in Texas and Florida have given them the head's up on 9/11? According to Osama, most of the hijackers didn't even know the nature of their mission. And why would Israel go to all this trouble to learn of sabotage in the U.S., if Israel wasn't going to do anything with that information?

All nations spy on those nations which potentially impact them, and of course Israel and the U.S. spy on each other regularly. But naturally, Israeli spying is done to benefit Israel. We expect Israel to spy on us to get our technology and military plans; isn’t this more likely than their picking up 9/11 plans?

While Israeli spying would generally be intended to benefit Israel directly, it could also be done for indirect benefit. Possibly Israel would spy on Arabs here in order to help out the U.S., presumably in return for some other intelligence (or weapons and financial support, which we give them in droves). Given the legal difficulties imposed on the CIA and other federal agencies’ activities within the U.S., isn't it at least as possible that the Israeli art students, if they were spies, were actually spying with the knowledge of, and on behalf of, the CIA? Wouldn’t this explain why they were allowed to stay for so long? And wouldn't the U.S. government want to keep the arrangement secret, and to get them out of the country post 9/11, while denying their spy status?

So even if the shadyness can be assumed, one cannot assume evil intent on the part of the Israelis or the U.S. federal government or CIA.

9 posted on 03/21/2002 1:24:24 PM PST by DWPittelli
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28 posted on 03/21/2002 5:04:14 PM PST by Bob J
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There are folks to whom the facts mean little, in their pursuit of a jihad as it were, against Jews and Israel. Justin Raimondo appears to be one of these people. A lie told 20 times is still a lie.
38 posted on 03/22/2002 7:50:49 AM PST by scratchgolfer
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