[Mark Bahner]

I know none of my relatives were liberals.

None of your relatives were conservatives, either, unless you're kin to Alexander Hamilton. Conservatives share equally in the blame for our federal government being a $2 TRILLION A YEAR unconstitutional monstrosity. (In fact, conservative G.W. Bush has proposed to increase that size by 9% in a single year.)

Paine, Jefferson, Madison, Washington...they were all libertarians. Not conservatives.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

I agree with you re: GW and the current day Republicans. I don't agree that the founding fathers were libertarians either though. I know one thing. They were nothing like liberals then or now.