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Killing Gentiles
Joe's mind ^ | This month | Joe Sobran

Posted on 03/20/2002 7:30:42 PM PST by Burkeman1

March 12, 2002 Ariel Sharon has finally gone too far. Israel’s thuggish prime minister thought he could crush the Palestinian revolt with a policy of violence, killing Palestinians until they begged for mercy. But the policy has backfired by getting lots of Jews killed too, and the violence on both sides is escalating dangerously. Even Sharon’s indulgent American patrons, George W. Bush and Colin Powell, have called for a halt to the madness.

Sharon is acting according to his lights. He has never concealed his contempt for “the goy” — the gentile. Israel is based on the principle that Jews have rights “goyim” don’t have. Hence its abuse of Arab gentiles and its defiance of Western gentiles.

Mark Weber of the Institute for Historical Review has summed up the situation in one pithy sentence: “The truth is that if we held Israel to the same standards that we apply to Serbia, Afghanistan, and Iraq, U.S. bombers and missiles would be blasting Tel Aviv, and we’d be putting Israeli prime minister Sharon behind bars for war crimes and crimes against humanity.”

Unless I’ve missed something, even such alleged “anti-Semites” as David Duke and Louis Farrakhan don’t advocate treating Jews as Israel treats gentiles. Anyone with a spark of decency would be ashamed to treat Jews that way. Yet a gentile can be accused of anti-Semitism even for the purely verbal sin of criticizing Israel, whereas a Jew who supports Sharon’s physical cruelty is accused of ... well, nothing. We have no handy word for even the most brutal Jewish treatment of gentiles.

To challenge the Jews’ right to oppress Palestinians is called “denying Israel’s right to exist.” Apparently its “right to exist” includes the right to oppress, and is indeed inseparable from it. Even the “peace plans” that call for separate Jewish and Palestinian states seem to take for granted the right of the Jewish state to treat Arabs within its borders as inferiors.

Perish the thought that Jews and gentiles should be equal! That would be anti-Semitism.

According to Israel’s “amen corner” in this country, Israel can do no wrong, except to concede too much to the Palestinians. Israel is a heroic “democracy” even when it treats its minority like dirt, and a “reliable ally” of the United States even when it steals American military secrets and sells them to Communist countries.

It’s an article of faith among the Amen Corner that the Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard — a national hero in Israel, by the way — has been punished far too harshly for his crimes, since the United States should have shared those secrets with Israel anyway. And far from recoiling from Sharon’s brutality, the Amen Corner defends him at every turn, just as Stalin’s fellow travelers in this country used to justify Uncle Joe — except that some in the Amen Corner think Sharon isn’t going far enough.

Not all the members of the Amen Corner are Jewish. Many are Christians — a shameful fact, since they never raise their voices in defense of Palestinian Christians. “See how these Christians love one another!” This kind of loyalty might make Judas Iscariot queasy.

The obvious danger is that the United States will once more be drawn into war with Israel’s enemies, chiefly Iraq. If that happens, we probably won’t be as lucky as in the 1991 Gulf War, which ended with an easy American victory and little cost until last September 11. This time the whole Middle East could erupt in war and revolution, leaving us with countless millions of bitter enemies on top of those we already have. It will be a boon to al-Qaeda recruitment.

The U.S. Government is toying with the possibility of using nuclear weapons in the war ahead — the war that the “war on terrorism” may morph into. We can be sure that the fanatical Sharon won’t object, and some of his American apologists are sounding rather interested in the idea of nuking Arabs. If the United States does it, Israel won’t have to.

We can only hope that Bush, Powell, and the rest of the top echelon of the government — which may or may not include Congress these days — will come to their senses before they decide to strike Iraq. U.S. support for Israel has already cost us far too much, and it may yet cost us far more. Ariel Sharon leaves no excuse for blindness about what we are dealing with.

Joseph Sobran

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To: Burkeman1
Get a grip, Joseph. If the Palestinians stopped their terrorism, I guarantee that the Israelis would no longer be firing their weapons.
21 posted on 03/20/2002 8:18:27 PM PST by kickme
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To: Burkeman1
Sobran's feeble attempt to compare the current events in Israel with past events in Kosovo goes to show just how morally bankrupt he really is.
22 posted on 03/20/2002 8:19:03 PM PST by semaj
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To: xm177e2
What should Israel do to end the terrorism against it?

Total occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, use of nuclear weapons, whatever it takes -- as long as the US can steer clear of becoming embroiled in Israel's problems, I really don't care.

23 posted on 03/20/2002 8:23:26 PM PST by Blade
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To: xm177e2
Well let's be fair, I've never seen anything this extreme from Sobran before.

Agreed. He's usually been more subtle about it, like Charlie Reese when he had to run everything through an editor.

24 posted on 03/20/2002 8:24:21 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: xm177e2
Alas, xm, you haven't been paying attention. Sobran, who--believe it or not--was once a witty and insightful writer--long ago degenerated into a gibbering bigot. Anybody who quotes the notorious Institute for Historical Review, and refers to David Duke as an "alleged" anti-Semite is telling you all you need to know. But believe me, Sobran's been dealing out this crapola for years now. It's really quite sad.
25 posted on 03/20/2002 8:25:29 PM PST by ArcLight
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To: Blade
as long as the US can steer clear of becoming embroiled in Israel's problems, I really don't care.

Unfortunately, that's not really possible if Bush wants to attack Iraq. He'll be expected to be involved in the "peace process" if he wants the okays from Arab leaders to take out Saddam. Abdullah of Jordan has already said that he would okay an attack on Iraq if there was a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians.

26 posted on 03/20/2002 8:27:18 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Blade
Dowd, Chris- yours ?
27 posted on 03/20/2002 8:27:48 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: ArcLight
Wanna wallow in more of this Sobranian filth? Here's a link to the Institute for Historical Review, an utterly appalling collection of Holocaust "revisionists."
28 posted on 03/20/2002 8:28:56 PM PST by ArcLight
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To: Burkeman1
"Ariel Sharon has finally gone too far. Israel’s thuggish prime minister thought he could crush the Palestinian revolt with a policy of violence, killing Palestinians until they begged for mercy. But the policy has backfired by getting lots of Jews killed too, and the violence on both sides is escalating dangerously.

All I can say is I'm quite disappionted in Sobran. How can he honestly think this? Sobran thinks the terror bombings and murders of Israeli civilians is equivalent to Israeli reprisals against Arafat's terrorist militias? Sobran -- you've lost your mind on this.

29 posted on 03/20/2002 8:30:06 PM PST by StormEye
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To: Burkeman1
Well, at least Sobran has fellow travelers who have infested FR. And they are myriad.

Sad, but true.

31 posted on 03/20/2002 8:36:22 PM PST by rdb3
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To: ArcLight
The "Holocaust revisionists" aren't advocating the passage of laws making any questioning of the Jewish version of events during the "Holocaust" a criminal offense. Many Jewish groups in this nation and around the world are advocating just that- right here in the "land of the free".
33 posted on 03/20/2002 8:37:02 PM PST by BushMeister
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To: ArcLight
You're right, he's been openly affiliated with them a long time.
The Institute for Historical Review is the intellectual organ of Holocaust revisionism or, as its enemies call it, Holocaust "denial." It produces a scholarly bi-monthly magazine, Journal of Historical Review, which deals not only with the Holocaust but with a range of other historical topics. It runs long and fascinating articles on such subjects as Lincoln's real views about race.

Charges that the IHR is anti-Semitic and pro-Nazi are belied by the Journal's calm and reasonable tone, in contrast to the shrillness and violence of its enemies.

--Joe Sobran April 5, 2001
34 posted on 03/20/2002 8:37:38 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: xm177e2
Calm and reasonable, are they? Here's a sample of the calm, reasonable stuff on their Web site:

The unavoidable conclusion about the wartime German treatment of European Jewry is that we have encountered a deliberate defamation and falsification conspiracy on an unprecedented scale. The internment of European Jews, like that of the Japanese in the United States and Canada, was carried out for security reasons. .. There is not the slightest intention here to argue that such internment was either necessary or desirable in any of these cases. Our treatment here has been solely concerned with the utterly monstrous and unfounded charge that internment was used by the Germans as a veil behind which they successfully slaughtered no less than six million European Jews. There has never been even the slightest conclusive proof for such a campaign of promiscuous slaughter on the part of Germany, and, in the meantime, all reliable evidence continues to suggest with increasing volume and impact that this genocide legend is a deliberate and brazen falsification.

From a book called The Myth of the Six Million.

35 posted on 03/20/2002 8:41:13 PM PST by ArcLight
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To: browardchad
And most of those Israeli Arabs were Christians. Nazareth is largely Christian.
36 posted on 03/20/2002 8:47:12 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: laconas
Top spokesman for the Plaestinians Hanna Ashrawi (sp?) is Christian, Arafat's wife is a Christian.
Hannan Ashrawi (beuatiful name for an ugly woman) is Christian. Arafat's wife Sura converted to Islam.

And Syria is about 20% Christian. Once it was 95% Christian. Then the Islamic armies came. Syria is a poor choice because it is a Fascist regime. Look at Egypt where Christian churches are leveled and the parishoners are not allowed to fix or build new ones. (Let's not even get into forced conversions.) Of course you should look at the religious regimes of Saudi Arabia or Sudan to see real repression.

The answer to your question--there are millions and millions of Christians living in Arab countries.
As Dhimmia, second class citizens paying special taxes and surviving on the sufference of the regimes.

Compare this to Israel where Christians and Muslims have the same rights as religious Jews.

37 posted on 03/20/2002 8:47:54 PM PST by rmlew
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To: ArcLight
This is what Sobran is so upset about:

The Holocaust-denier Faurisson was beaten by some anti-revisionist Jews. Sobran seems to have more sympathy for Faurisson than he does for the Jews who died in the Holocaust...

38 posted on 03/20/2002 8:50:38 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: laconas
Ashrawi is a Marxist parading as a Christian,Syria does not have that many Christians, as many have left as a result of Islamic persecution, and those that remain in Arab Muslim lands, live in fear.
39 posted on 03/20/2002 8:51:43 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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