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To: crystalk
From the Washington AG's investigative playbook that I have posted many times.

A unique pattern of distance relationships exists in child abduction murders. The initial contact site is within 1/4 mile of the victim's last known location in 80% of cases. Conversely, the distance between the initial contact site and the murder site increases to distances greater than 1/4 mile (54%). The distance from the murder site to the body recovery site again decreases, to less than 200 feet in 72 percent of cases.

The defendant removes a living, but unconscious Danielle (nitrous oxide, available/cheap/effective), takes her somewhere (to MH at Poway),possibly travels some small amount of time/distance before he kills her and drives in MH to Dahesa Rd and dumps body. Returns MH to Poway, goes home before sunrise. Rest is as he states, tooled all over to distract from more local searches. Perhaps never even notices small amounts of blood until much later.

What we know from child abduction/murder studies. Victims are usually dead with in first 3 hrs (74%), perpetrators usually dump bodies very close to actual murder site, but at some distance from the snatch site.

This fits Dahesa Rd site pretty well.

For those who cannot fathom what appear to be "stupid" mistakes. Abduction/Murder is not a rational act, so may not be carried out in a rational manner, but in the manner that fits the obsession/compulsion the perpetrator is acting from. Perpetrators are often very conflicted in their behavior and sometimes want to be stopped.

426 posted on 03/20/2002 10:03:06 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1
see y'all tomorrow....g'nite.
427 posted on 03/20/2002 10:54:48 PM PST by RangeRatt
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To: Valpal1
For those who cannot fathom what appear to be "stupid" mistakes. Abduction/Murder is not a rational act, so may not be carried out in a rational manner, but in the manner that fits the obsession/compulsion the perpetrator is acting from.

Who fits the model of "stupidity" more than the van Dams and their friends? You are right that "Abduction/Murder is not a rational act", and this sad group had demonstrated a surprising obsession/compulsion with personal vanity and self-indulgence, leading to the demise of a child.

Perpetrators are often very conflicted in their behavior and sometimes want to be stopped.

If this is the case with DW, then he would have confessed to the crime long ago. No, DW has no choice but to accept the fact he was in the wrong place and the wrong time and has to fight a false accusation.

429 posted on 03/21/2002 12:15:46 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Valpal1
The defendant removes a living, but unconscious Danielle (nitrous oxide, available/cheap/effective), takes her somewhere (to MH at Poway),possibly travels some small amount of time/distance before he kills her and drives in MH to Dahesa Rd and dumps body. Returns MH to Poway, goes home before sunrise. Rest is as he states, tooled all over to distract from more local searches. Perhaps never even notices small amounts of blood until much later.

Okay, here's the timeline for that:

Approx. 3am: Abducts girl from house, immediately loads her into his SUV.
3:05-3:30: Drives to Skyridge Rd.
3:30-3:45: Transfers girl from SUV to RV and does whatever, kills her.
3:45-4:40: Drives to Dehesa Rd, dumps body
4:45-5:40: Drives back to Skyridge Rd., gets into SUV
5:40-6:05: Drives back home.

This timeline requires that DW move quick all the time, only allows 15 minutes for transferring to RV, molesting and killing and only 5 minutes for dumping the body. No allowance for driving somewhere else to kill girl, couldn't fit that in.

Possible, but seems far-fetched.

445 posted on 03/21/2002 4:58:32 AM PST by wonders
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