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Feldman's Questions Show Defense Strategy: Dig into Damon and Brenda van Dam's Private Lives!
KNSD NBC ^ | March 19, 2002 | Lynn Stuart

Posted on 03/19/2002 2:33:12 PM PST by FresnoDA

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To: HamiltonJay
AH so, now you think its her mothers blood that was in the RV and on the mans coat? Sorry you're reaching

The DNA evidence currently suggests it could be EITHER. Who's ignoring evidence now? It was a DROP of blood, not A POOL of it. Brenda was dancing with DW at the bar, and denied it. Witnesses saw her. Why did she attempt to keep this fact unknown? Why does her testimony conflict with her earlier statements? You need to examine the evidence, again, my friend.

541 posted on 03/21/2002 8:32:20 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: HamiltonJay
I don't think anyone PLANTED any evidence. I think that the evidence, right now, either through pure luck or some very careful planning, points in the direction of DW. Ever see the movie "Presumed Innocent"? Remember the ending? Evidence was planted in that one, but likewise, until all the results were in, the "evidence" pointed to Harrison Ford as the guilty party.
542 posted on 03/21/2002 8:41:45 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: tutstar
He didn't have that much hair.
543 posted on 03/21/2002 8:50:27 AM PST by Jaded
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To: spectre
He twitched his nose. Or used his "transporter". Beam me up.
544 posted on 03/21/2002 8:52:30 AM PST by Jaded
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To: tutstar
Looks to me, both sides of argument are being posted. But on some of these threads there have been several instances of name calling and that is more ridiculous than some of the theories which have been presented. I get to hear my kids calling each other names sometimes and honestly when I come on FR I'd like see it kept to adult standards of courtesy even when there is disagreement.

AMEN.....amen and AMEN. Thank you for shedding the light on the truth for all of us.
545 posted on 03/21/2002 8:56:14 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
OH YEAH?? OH YEAH???
546 posted on 03/21/2002 9:00:38 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: tutstar
It does state on the FR posting guidelines "Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts." I would imagine breaking the rules would get one in trouble with the moderators.

Hmmm, it's easier to do it than not maybe.. "Loose lips sink ships." I know that was intended for those who could reveal info that could hurt ''our'' side in the war of terrorism..but it can also has other meanings.

547 posted on 03/21/2002 9:00:46 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
LOL~ YEAH! ya big bully wanna-be. :)
548 posted on 03/21/2002 9:01:45 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
A couple years back the flaming on FR was so bad that Jim Robinson set up a special chat-flame war area "The Alley", as in "Take it to the Alley". These fights on the VD threads are like a mere Jalapeño to a genuine "white bullet" Habañero.
549 posted on 03/21/2002 9:03:34 AM PST by bvw
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To: wonders
I am pretty familiar with SD County. I am just basing the drive on drives I have made from Poway area to the 8/15 Interchange, and then east towards the general area of El Cajon. I would not expect he would have run into traffic at that hour of the morning, but I also would not expect he would be barreling down the freeway at breakneck speed. These are estimates at maybe 60 mph down the freeway, little more time getting off the freeway towards the Dehesa area.
550 posted on 03/21/2002 9:03:59 AM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Jaded
He had a beard. And men usually have a lot of hair on the arms and legs. This stuff does fall off, just like head hair does.
551 posted on 03/21/2002 9:04:25 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: bvw
Agreed... Is the alley still there? I like non-flaming peppers myself..and mild salsa..that's it and as far as I'll go. :)
552 posted on 03/21/2002 9:06:37 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: HamiltonJay
Ref your #504: I agree there are several things which point to DW's guilt. I'm not sure it's all that unusual to come back from a camping trip with scratches. I've got my share of them while camping. Still, the scratches do look suspicious. If the scratches were made by Danielle, they'll find DW's DNA under her nails, and then, LOCK, he's guilty for sure.

The blood spots both in the camper and on the jacket make me very suspicious, too. But they are undated. And it isn't lunacy to speculate that a little girl that age would want to have a look inside the camper when it was parked so near her house on so many occasions. Add to that that the little girl bit her nails and was at the loose-tooth stage, might have scratched herself climbing into the camper, and little spatters of blood are not that impossible.

Moreover, as I understand it, the "further testing" of the blood spots involved matching the DNA found in the blood spots to created DNA from Damon and Brenda, proving that the blood was "from an offspring of Damon and Brenda." Danielle has two brothers. There is clear proof that Danielle was, at some time, in the camper, however: her fingerprint found on a cabinet in the camper. This also proves she was alive when in the camper. It doesn't prove when she was there.

I know some people are hung up on the parents' sex lives. I've never posted about that, myself.

Yes, some wild theories have been posted. But many theories on how DW did it have their share of lunacy as well.

Again, if there is fibre or DNA evidence of DW in the VD house, or at Dehesa, or on the body, I'll be convinced he's guilty. Also guilty if they find lint from Danielle's PJs in DW's house house or SUV or camper. (There's that convenient pair of identical PJs to which they can match lint.)

553 posted on 03/21/2002 9:08:37 AM PST by wonders
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
The alley isn't there anymore, as far as I know -- now we have the moderators.
554 posted on 03/21/2002 9:28:29 AM PST by bvw
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Gosh, Kimmie, why would you even think I was talking about You? Was I? Naahhhh...:~) (big smile on my face :~)

It's hard to take anyone seriously who walks around insulting people then snickers about it, LOL! Oh well, if the shoe fits, ROTLMAO.. My opinion, it's sooooo immature. :~) LOL!

Old saying..

The squeaky wheel gets the grease....It's also the first to be replaced. LOL!!

Just kiddin, hardy har har...I'm such a card, LOL!

sw

555 posted on 03/21/2002 9:42:35 AM PST by spectre
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I think the child was no more available than polly klaas who was snatched out of her bedroom in front of people. Sometimes things just happen out of luck or planning.

From the same website: "At about 10 PM that evening, an intruder, high on booze and armed with a knife, crawled in through an open bedroom window...She had been brutally raped and strangled...His rap sheet was a pathetic litany of major and minor offences that included robbery, burglary, assault, rape and kidnapping that stretched back 26 years."

I still don't think the type of "situational molester" described in your post fits DW. And I don't think these types elaborately plan their crimes. They are crimes of opportunity, committed in a fit of rage, often helped along by drugs and/or alcohol. At least that's how I read the info on the site.

As I said, DW didn't just take advantage of an open window. If he did it, he had to have planned it. Also, DW has no history of violence. Does this description fit Polly Klaas' murderer? To a T. Long history of violence, took advantage of an open window. Violently raped and murdered victim.

We don't know how Danielle was murdered. It is suspected she was smothered. There were no signs she was murdered violently by an enraged killer (as in stabbing, strangulation, etc). We also don't know whether she was raped. I'm not saying DW didn't do it, just that I don't think he fits into this particular category of "situational molester."

Of course, if it is because that the vd's handed her over to him..icckk.. I can't even fathom it. That has been mentioned before too.

I can't fathom it either, Kim. I don't want to go there. "Icckk" is right.

The criminology aspect is interesting. Glad you brought it into the discussion.

556 posted on 03/21/2002 9:43:52 AM PST by wonders
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To: wonders
Again, you are reaching further and further for your doubts.... going beyond reasonable. I camp as well, and get scratched all the time, but I don't get numberous scratches on my forarms from a 2 day camping trip... consistent with defensive scratches if I were choking someone. I don't get other peoples blood in the camper.... don't know about you, but kids don't arbitrarily play in my camper at my house, let alone bleed it in, or leave blood on my coat which I just happen to take the cleaners a few days after they die.

Sure it is not beyond all possible doubt that this guy did it, but nothing is ever beyond all possible doubt. The standard is only REASONABLE doubt. As of this moment, there is no reasonable doubt in my mind to let this guy walk... he will get his day in court, and I believe without question physical evidence on the body will also link him as well, and I am very sure that the prosecution and DA have more evidence than has been published so far.

I am not objecting to him having his day in court, I am pointing out the folly of people here trying to blame the DA's re-election campaign or the parents covering up etc.. its lunacy. Even the defense attorney's tactics so far are consistent with the defense of a guilty man. Not trying to establish alibi or innocence showing he did not do it, but to raise questions and attack the victims. This is a defense strategy attempting to "create" a reasonable doubt, not find or present one.

557 posted on 03/21/2002 9:47:53 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: wonders
DW has no history of violence

Neither did Bundy before they caught him....

558 posted on 03/21/2002 9:49:28 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: spectre
Yeah...uhuh..whatever you say spectre! :)
559 posted on 03/21/2002 9:52:39 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I knew that would fly right over your head, Kim. :~)

sw

560 posted on 03/21/2002 10:02:07 AM PST by spectre
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