Posted on 03/19/2002 2:33:12 PM PST by FresnoDA
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If this rumor is true, IMHO, it is a slam-dunk for the prosecutor.
If it is true, it means DW wanted to be caught and stopped, and that's why he made so many "mistakes".
From the overhead pics of the neighborhood posted on another thread, this doesn't seem likely. The house is across the street, with one house in between Westerfield's. The terrain is not very hilly at all, basically flat, and certainly not that much difference in the height of Westerfield's lot and the one directly across the street. I think your friend mighta been had.
So the effect of the gag was (perhaps) to hold the harm on Westerfield while keeping it from the VD's.
Loved your brilliant comment about the house being an EASY MARK for an amateur.
I have neighbors right next door who like to drink and party late in their house. They also have a young daughter.
So according to you, I shouldn't have any trouble at all just brazenly walking in (I'm an amateur don't you know) and abducting her some night.
Of course there are just a few problems. I've never been inside their home and it's a different model than mine. She has two brothers sleeping upstairs. I don't know which room is hers, I think they may have an alarm system, but I don't know for sure. They don't have a dog, but I guess I could always step on their cat's tail in the dark. Then there's the parents. If I'm seen by one of them abducting her I had better be prepared to kill both of them and or the boys right on the spot. After all, they'd just have to call the police and I'd be toast.
Maybe Westerfield is the luckiest guy in the world to invade a neighbor's home, steal their daughter, and no one has the slightest idea he's been there or that anything even happened. Maybe he did it. And maybe he didn't.
I have three pairs of binocs. I use them to watch birds. I guess if you looked hard enough you might even find one of my wife's Victoria's Secret catalogues nearby one of them. Doeasn't make me a perv.
Regardless if Westerfield did it or not, the van Dam's are sleazy white trash. No way those boys should be allowed to stay in the same house with these degenerates. Where the hell is child services when you need them.
Then again, this is Californicatia. Doc Savage (Named after the famous paperback detective)
Um, kim, lying to the cops is not perjury in a legal sense. BTW, are th PH transcripts available yet? Heard they would be released today.
This is an LEO's dream scenario, to good to be true.
Valpal, you finally got something right, too good to be true..Danielle's bedroom is on the other side of the house from DW's. so if he was looking in any windows it would have been the parents...and of course he left his binoculars and porn stuff near the window and on his computer, so we can give this guy an IQ of what 67?
Oh don't forget BVD said Danielle had a bike and rode it, and had even gone to the nearby park twice alone but mommy watched from the front yard..uh hum a mom who leaves her kid alone in a store and the house and the kid has gotten out before by climbing the gate...she probably felt ignored at home and did what she darn well felt like...
Jennifer was the owner of the other prints in the MV, checked against 18 know prints..no last name given indicates to me a minor.....
Lets see his MH is stored in a remote area with 8-10 feet of underbrush, ability to sneak in and bury body, but it is found on Dehesa Rd near area known to be used by mountain bikers..and DVD did or does own a Mountain bike...nothing to see here, PD has cleared them,,,FBI cleared Allan Aldrich too for years with Polygraph...
Must be coincidence VD's supposedly sign TD for 50K line of credit on their house on 2/4/02..when did they file application for that? Hey personally I hope someone convincingly confesses so the doubt can be removed...sooner the better...
We've seen the photos of the neighborhood...that sounds like bs to me
Yet that is no problem for I and my wife both have sure that she keeps that window with curtains drawn always, and a light blocking shade at night.
Where were the Van Dam parents on this modesty issue in their own daughter's bedroom?
Interesting the dogs alerted..why then didn't the PD put out an all points bulletin? they would have his SUV and MH license plates and vehicle and personal description from neighbors...he went to the Silver Strand State Park where Park Rangers are stationed..he drove back to his house Saturday and talked to one of his neighbors...with his MH parked down the street...about 10 days later the PD brings in a Bloodhound from Riverside..for what? If the dogs already alerted? Is this bloodhound better at testifying in court than the other pooches? Oh why would the dogs hit on his garage, reportedly his garage is half full of stuff and he parks in driveway...
Are you stirring the "pot" here... LOL....Actually I am waiting patiently to hear what the dog handlers have to say...discussion is good for us!!!
I am sorry I am just not buying the framed/scapegoat conspiracy horsecrap. Just see a bunch of people making moral judgements against a parents sexual habbits with nothing evidence wise to back it up. Claims of purjury against the VD's. I am sorry, I saw one community let off a guilty man due to his skin color alone in my lifetime, not going to go along with another mob letting another monster off because of some sexual activities.
Thank you for your reply and your thought-out response.
I have zero interest in the parents' "sexual habits" as you put it. In fact, I wish this were not a factor in this case (only makes for sensationalism in FR theads like this, not productive). In my opinion, the VDs are trashy people, and trashy people are plain boring. They are sadly all alike.
One of my interests in this case, I must admit, is working the puzzle --could DW have possibly done it? If so, how? Could someone else have possibly done it in a more believable manner? Could he have really done it alone?
Neither do I believe in convenient coincidences. But something about this case just doesn't add up.
Skin colour/race does not appear to be an issue in this case. Everybody's whitebread here. Not only are they whitebread, they all have more $ than they can reasonably account for. Which makes one ask questions.
What does appear to be an issue in this case is a questionable DA up for re-election, with an arrest (without a body) in such a high-profile case made just in time for the run-off. Still, the DA didn't do so well in the primary. So take that for what you will.
As for a frame-job, unless there is some unexpected evidence of mafia involvement, I give no credence to the frame-up theories. I believe this was a crime of passion of some sort, and crimes of passion don't usually involve frame-ups (unless some time after the fact, given opportunity, the true culprit wishes to point a finger at another, in which case "three fingers point right back").
I am aware that some theorize the blood was planted, etc. I consider that ridiculous, as I know that blood composition alters quite dramatically upon death. (Sorry folks, you simply can't take blood from a dead body and plant it so easily.) It would have taken considerable resources (as in mafia) to plant any blood that night. I highly doubt that an organized crime ring carefully planned the poor child's murder and had vials of her blood at the ready to frame DW. Whether an organised crime ring indeed had something to do with her death remains open to serious consideration, however. Check the latest news and decide for yourself.
Again, if DW is truly the guilty one, and the only guilty one, I'll be relieved. Relieved I don't have to worry about my old friend's daughter, my own Goddaughter, and can rest easy that she is reasonably safe.
For now, I have something of a question in my mind. Is that not natural for one in my situation? Don't we want to be sure that the creeps and predators are really behind bars and our loved ones safe from them?
Best regards, wonders
I thought the police tracker dog(s) lost the scent at the concrete street in front of the vd's.
I don't think blood was planted, I just have not heard confirmation that the blood on his jacket and in the motor home is the girl's.
BTW, the dog's going to his house is easily explained by the cookie sales
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