Posted on 03/19/2002 2:33:12 PM PST by FresnoDA
He's not likely to say that. It is my OPINION that a lot of the posters to these threads care a lot more about the sex lives of the parents than they do the murder of this little girl. A actual conviction of the murderer will ruin all their fun.
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but just want to be sure the right person is convicted.....YEP
the track record in san diego is piss poor for getting the right perps for child abuse.....YEP
the sex life of the parents is entertaining but the real story is very sad and sick no matter who did it...NOT EXACTLY..Between Brenda and Barb, they need to be followed around by a Safeway Bag Boy for safety.....
hopefully all watching this case can learn something from it and from the discussions just like other controversial threads..no sex in the threads about the Eagle scout shot in the face by the FBI...don't you think it looks like the FBI is covering something up there? YEP
Police make mistakes? Could be, last time I checked they were human beings and put their pants on one leg at a time like the rest of us...BUMP!!!
Therefore let's shut down any and all investigation about the role of the parents in this abduction ... even though it may be not immoral BUT ILLEGAL. You do not want a legal investigation into this case because you personally have decided that the parents are not guilty. But perhaps they are.
Disappearances go back 4 decades
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![]() By Pauline Repard February 20, 2002 Danielle van Dam isn't the first girl in the county to vanish under strange or tragic circumstances. In eight cases dating to 1960, five girls were found dead and two turned up alive. One was never found.
When she didn't return to her home on E Avenue, her father called police. Intense searching ended when a farmer found her body in a gully. She had been raped and suffocated. Her killer was never found.
A search expanded to dozens of officers and 200 volunteers. The FBI checked hundreds of reported sightings of Leticia all the way to Florida. It ended March 9, 1991, when a ranch caretaker found Leticia's skull off county Highway S16, two miles south of the Riverside County line. She had been dead about a year. Suspicion centered on a man who lived near the Hernandez family, but no arrest was made after a grand jury investigation.
Seven years later, Crystal turned up alive in Puerto Rico, being raised by Nilza Gierbolini. She claimed that a man who had shared the Anzaldi apartment gave her the toddler, but he was never charged with kidnapping. Crystal was returned to her then-divorced father.
Her body was found 11 days later in a canyon five blocks from her home. In May 1996, police acting on a tip arrested Webb, then 21. He had lured Amanda into his home, drugged her, raped her and hid her under his bed while he went to school. After 36 hours he strangled her, then dumped her body. He was sentenced to life in prison. |
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Could be a "blonde" hair was found somewhere in Westerfield's RV, home, clothes, etc. and was thought to be one of Danielle's. If, after analysis, it was discovered that it is COLOR-TREATED, not naturally blonde, VOILA! Brenda Van Dam!
Feldman also brought up the point, that Danielle's hair was naturally blonde, thus making the comparison between Brenda's chemically treated hair, and Danielle's natural hair. Remember, they did have MitDNA used for the initial booking of Westerfield evidence.
Could be he's just making the van Dams worry about something that isn't there, and could be they SHOULD worry about something that IS there?
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'Cause is that what THIS (FR) is all about? Many people, different views, offering opinions, theories, and ideas? That's what I signed on for.
This is just so well-said, I thought it should be repeated. Often. And we should also remember that little ditty we used to say at university: Opinions are like belly buttons: everyone's got one, and everyone thinks theirs is the center of the universe. There's another one about armpits which also applies: Opinions are like armpits: everyone's got them, and everyone thinks everybody else's stinks to high Heaven.
And then there are the words of one of my old profs: Don't bond with your opinions so strongly that you can't gracefully back away from them when, as inevitably happens, the errors of your thinking become overwhelmingly apparent.
Sometimes, there is truth in cliches, which might explain how cliches come into being.
As long as we are tossing quotes around, do you remember this one, which applies to our resident class clown:
"Better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"...LOL! :>)
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Sorry, missed that... what's MitDNA? I remember on one of the earlier threads speculation about the type of DNA analysis used, and depending on the test used, it could rule out any doubt of ownership (DNA), where other tests determined only a probability of ownership. Do you mean that the DNA was not exclusive to Danielle, that it could still possibly be Brenda's?
From today's San Diego Union Tribune:.... Memorials to Danielle removed from park ![]() Van Dams did not object to playground's cleanup
By Brian E. Clark March 20, 2002
The only reminder of what had become a huge community memorial was a bare patch of ground near the rear of the park, where scores of mourners had knelt and wept in front of Danielle's picture. Landscaping crews removed the tributes to Danielle, the blue-eyed 7-year-old who was abducted from her bedroom and killed last month, after neighbors complained that the memorial upset their children. "We were getting a lot of calls from the homeowners association, asking us to do something because all that stuff reminded them and their kids of what a terrible thing had happened just a block away from here," said Jim Bradley, a spokesman for N.N. Jaeschke, the property services company for the Sabre Springs neighborhood where Danielle lived. Bradley said hundreds of stuffed animals, about 200 candles, hundreds of balloons, vases of flowers, pinwheels and other items were taken from Sabre Highlands Mini Park on Mountain Pass Road yesterday morning. Damon and Brenda van Dam, Danielle's parents, were told Friday of the plans to clean the park, Bradley said. They took some of the items, he said, and told him they wanted the remaining teddy bears and other toys to go to Purple Heart, a store in Santee that benefits disabled veterans. "They didn't object. They understood that kids wanted to play in the park again," he said. "It was pretty full of things that people had left for Danielle. Now, though, it's like it was before, and kids and families are returning to play." Brenda van Dam declined comment when contacted at her home yesterday. Sara Fraunces, a spokeswoman for the van Dams, said the couple supported the decision to remove the memorial "to be sensitive to the neighborhood and all the neighborhood children who use the park." Leslie Huskey, manager of Purple Heart, said she appreciated the donations of the stuffed animals and keepsakes. "We threw away a few that were damaged or too muddy," she said. "We dried off the others and we've already put them out for sale. Some of them are really big and beautiful." Across the street from the park, Amy Lee said she was pleased that children could return and play there again. "It was good that people brought flowers and animals to show their sorrow," said Lee, who has an 8-year-old son. "But it is good for it to go back to the way it was." Another neighbor, who didn't want her name used, said she had attended a memorial at the park two weeks ago and cried and prayed for Danielle. "Hundreds of kids are dropped off every day at this park," she said. "And I don't think it was right for them to be constantly reminded of Danielle's murder. This was where she played. Children should be allowed to play here again, too." The woman said she would oppose renaming the park for the slain child. "I think perhaps planting a tree and having a plaque for her would be a better idea," she said. San Diego City Councilman Brian Maienschein, who represents Sabre Springs, suggested renaming the park for Danielle several weeks ago after speaking to her parents. Yesterday, however, he said he would leave it to the neighborhood to decide. "I still believe there should be some sort of memorial to Danielle because her death touched so many people," he said. "That could be a bench, a tree or a plaque. The decision on that, though, should be made by the community."
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''To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.'' -- Theodore Roosevelt
That is a very good quote, Kim. Applicable to the alleged perp and quite possibly the parents as well!
Actually, our point was that 20 yrs ago, people like John Walsh were very mistreated, and the case was mishandled. Now, today...cops are on the case within minutes because of John Walsh. He paved the way to congress, and forced the law enforcement community to be better trained and responsive to abductions. Previously, cops had no training...waiting days..now it's minutes. In stores, we have code Adam..meaning, child is missing. In our town, we have a code "amber"...which means all local media alerts the public within minutes after the report so we can be on the look out for the little child. (amber was a victim of a pedophile...)
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