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To: Luis Gonzalez
Non sequitor, Luis. If a burglar breaks into your house, and can simply go to the police station before he's caught and pay a fine in order to avoid prosecution, then the rule of law has not been served. That's a much more accurate scenario than the one you put forth.

You're trying to argue as if a single case may be dismissed for one reason or another, rather than facing the obvious fact that violation of some laws has been nullified by an act of Congress for a certain group of people who aren't citizens.

Why do you want Mexicans who have broken our laws to be excused and allowed to stay ostensibly to become citizens? Are you desperate enough for people to converse with in Spanish that you'd risk letting Mohammed Farzuq, alias Jorge Obregon set off a nuke and kill your children? That's exactly what this kind of legislation at this particular time could cause.

You need to wake up, son. This is a security issue, not a case of mass xenophobia. People who have violated immigration regulations need to be sent home and barred from reentry. If that includes those who don't intend us harm, then that's a small price to pay. We're at war, and the war is going to be waged against us here at home by people who come from elsewhere. Everyone who came here from somewhere else is supect and has to be checked out. The flow of people from outside our borders also has to be checked, no matter the cost. The alternative is national suicide.

416 posted on 03/20/2002 3:58:39 AM PST by Twodees
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To: Twodees
"If a burglar breaks into your house, and can simply go to the police station before he's caught and pay a fine in order to avoid prosecution, then the rule of law has not been served."

If he can do that, that would mean that the law allows him to do that, and the rule of law would have been served.

"You need to wake up son."

Don't ever call me your son again.

419 posted on 03/20/2002 4:35:38 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Twodees
The proposed extension addresses some problems created by the INS under Janet Reno, as well as the needs of some US citizens with alien spouses. It also makes it impossible for employers to apply for visas for employees they don't have in their payrolls yet. Read the law in its entirety, not just what Saber posts.

"Are you desperate enough for people to converse with in Spanish that you'd risk letting Mohammed Farzuq, alias Jorge Obregon set off a nuke and kill your children?"

I see that you are starting your snide tone, and all your patronizing crap.

So I'll bow out now, before you begin your usual rounds of name-calling.

420 posted on 03/20/2002 4:49:23 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Twodees
You need to wake up, son. This is a security issue, not a case of mass xenophobia. People who have violated immigration regulations need to be sent home and barred from reentry. If that includes those who don't intend us harm, then that's a small price to pay.

Hey can we send back losers such as yourself as well. That seems a small price to pay. That will leave much more room and opportunity for us REAL Americans.

Most, if not all the people you are talking about entered this country legally. The INS screwed up their applications and are attempting to fix that. This is not wetbacks swimming the Rio Grande and living in the shadows. These are people who came here legally and applied for a change in their status which they are allowed to do by law. You are talking about booting people out for the equivalent of a speeding ticket, not an armed robbery. BTW, the bill just gives them the opportunity to stay here while the work on their already existing applications is completed. They still have to be screened and meet all the qualifications for getting a green card. Learn the facts or admit you just dont want any additional immigrants in this country.

423 posted on 03/20/2002 5:09:08 AM PST by Dave S
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