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AMNESTY by BUSH - The Truth about Section 245(i)
March 19th, 2002 | Compiled by Sabertooth

Posted on 03/19/2002 1:49:07 AM PST by Sabertooth

AMNESTY by BUSH
The Truth about Section 245(i)

H.R.1885

Enhanced Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act of 2002 (Engrossed House Amendment)

SEC. 607. EXTENSION OF DEADLINE FOR CLASSIFICATION PETITION AND LABOR CERTIFICATION FILINGS.

    (a) IN GENERAL- Section 245(i)(1) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1255(i)(1)) is amended--

      (1) in subparagraph (B)--

        (A) in clause (i), by striking `on or before April 30, 2001; or' and inserting `on or before the earlier of November 30, 2002, and the date that is 120 days after the date on which the Attorney General first promulgates final or interim final regulations to carry out the amendments made by section 607(a) of the Enhanced Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act of 2002; or'; and

        (B) in clause (ii) by striking `on or before such date; and' and inserting `before August 15, 2001;';

      (2) in subparagraph (C), by adding `and' at the end; and

      (3) by inserting after subparagraph (C) the following:

      `(D) who, in the case of a beneficiary of a petition for classification described in subparagraph (B)(i) that was filed after April 30, 2001, demonstrates that--

        `(i) the familial relationship that is the basis of such petition for classification existed before August 15, 2001; or

        `(ii) the application for labor certification under section 212(a)(5)(A) that is the basis of such petition for classification was filed before August 15, 2001;'.

    (b) EFFECTIVE DATE- The amendments made by subsection (a) shall take effect as if included in the enactment of the Legal Immigration Family Equity Act (114 Stat. 2762A-142 et seq.), as enacted into law by section 1(a)(2) of Public Law 106-553.

Amend the title so as to read `An Act to enhance the border security of the United States, and for other purposes.'.
LINK

This is the relevant provision of HR 1885 to Section 245(i) of the Immigration and Naturalization Code. All it does is extend application deadlines under 245(i).

Here's a LINK to H.R.1885 in its entirety.


INS Memo: Sec. 245(i) filings

Section 245 of the Act allows an alien to apply for adjustment of status to that of a lawful permanent resident (LPR) while in the United States if certain conditions are met. The alien must have been inspected and admitted or paroled, be eligible for an immigrant visa and admissible for permanent residence, and, with some exceptions, have maintained lawful nonimmigrant status. The alien must also not have engaged in unauthorized employment.
Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.
LINK.

Last week's 245(i) extension was specifically about illegals.
Letting Illegals stay = Amnesty for those Illegals.



How Do I Benefit From Section 245(i)?
(from INS website)

Our immigration laws allow qualified individuals to enter the United States as lawful permanent residents ("green card" holders) after they obtain immigrant visas from a consulate or embassy outside the United States or, for many immigrants already lawfully in the United States, through a process called "adjustment of status." If you entered the United States unlawfully, if you entered with permission but did not stay in lawful status, or if you worked without permission, you normally would have to leave the United States in order to apply for an immigrant visa. Special rules under section 245(i) may allow you to apply to adjust status without leaving the United States.

You might need section 245(i) if you:

  • Entered the U.S. without being inspected by an INS official.
  • Stayed in the U.S. longer than allowed by INS.
  • Entered the U.S. as a worker on an aircraft or ship (crewman).
  • Entered the U.S. as a "Transit Without Visa."
  • Failed to continuously maintain a lawful status since your entry into the US.
  • Worked in the U.S. without INS permission.
  • Entered as an "S" nonimmigrant (relates to witnesses about criminal or terrorism matters).
  • Are seeking a work-related visa and are out of status at the time of filing the application to adjust status (Form I-485).
  • Worked in the U.S. while being an "unauthorized alien."


LINK

Again, what we see here are more instances of how Section 245(i) applies specifically to Illegals.

Extending a deadline for Illegals to "adjust status" means that more Illegals will be staying in the U.S., but they will be legalized for a fee of $1,000. That's Amnesty.

Some, I'm certain, will prefer not to believe their lying eyes.



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KEYWORDS: 245i; amnesty; illegals; immigrantlist
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To: Sabertooth
I think you have rewritten the 245i. I do not believe that which you wrote is correct. 245(i) --this was an extension of an expired rule and it was for people who missed the April 30 deadline and therefore they would have to go back home and reapply. Their families (if they had families) would either be forced to go back with them or stay without the parent. The program targets people whose visa expired. These individuals are elgible for a permanent resident visa, but under exisitng law they must return to their country. or origin to reapply and restart the wait to as much as 10 years.
281 posted on 03/19/2002 7:44:43 PM PST by olliemb
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To: WRhine
Texasforever you have a lot more confidence in Bush on this issue than I do. We will have to see what unfolds.

For just a moment let's put the "amnesty" aside and look at the rest of the bill. Do you agree with the idea of restructuring, the INS to separate the enforcement from the service functions and the merging with customs and DEA? Do you agree with the new student visa restrictions in the bill? Do you agree with the requirement for more tamper resistant visa and identification documents? Do you agree with the outright refusal of future visas from the nations we have put the “terrorist” label on? There is a hell of a lot more in this bill than a 4 month extension on another bill. The House tried to passed the restrictions once and it died in the Senate, so it is obvious this was the "carrot" that went with the "stick". That is politics and that is the way things work. I have no problem with folks that think and rightly so, this is "rewarding lawbreakers" I just have a problem with the gross overstatements being made and the undercurrent of agendas surrounding this issue.

282 posted on 03/19/2002 7:45:33 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: olliemb
I think you have rewritten the 245i. I do not believe that which you wrote is correct. 245(i)

UNBELIEVABLE! What does Bush give you people to make you trust him so?

283 posted on 03/19/2002 7:48:29 PM PST by RickyJ
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To: olliemb
I think you have rewritten the 245i. I do not believe that which you wrote is correct. 245(i)

Wrong and wrong.

In fact, I used the government issue HTML for Sec. 607 of the bill, which I posted at the top of this thread.

Apologies for the busted links to the HR 1885 legislation. Apparently the links provided by a search on that Federal Gov site go stale after a while, but you can find the links I was trying to make by doing the following...

First, click HERE.

Enter HR 1885 in the bill number search field, and click search. Then click on option #1. On the next page you'll see an outline for the entire 1885 legislation. For the 245(i) mods, scroll down to Sec. 607 at the bottom, and click.

Hope that helps.





284 posted on 03/19/2002 8:02:31 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Luis Gonzalez
In the past, your posts have accused Bush of seeking a "blanket amnesty" for illegal immigrants.

No. Never.

I've been accused frequently of having said that, but I've studiously pointed out it's not true.

Nor do I now believe President Bush seeks a "blanket amnesty."

You have also hundreds of references to the millions of illegal immigrants in the US.

That's true, isn't it?

When you said "blanket amnesty", what exactly did you mean then, if not amnesty for millions?

I take "blanket amnesty" to mean what it did in 1986... An Amnesty for all Illegals.

Is that incorrect?




285 posted on 03/19/2002 8:07:20 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
But you have claimed that Bush would grant amnesty to millions, while claiming that it isn't a "blanket amnesty", right?
287 posted on 03/19/2002 8:13:42 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Sabertooth
"...they will be legalized for a fee of $1,000. That's Amnesty."

When you violate the speed limit, and a policeman gives you a citation, is that a "fee" or a fine?

288 posted on 03/19/2002 8:19:21 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Texasforever
I agree with all the security provisions in HR 1885. What I disagree with is selling more of our sovereignty away and in the process making it easier for terrorists to obtain green cards as a reason to get some security measures that should have been passed months ago. There are other ways to pass those much-needed reforms in the INS and elsewhere without going down this road. Really, I think it’s just an excuse to pass the 245I-amnesty bill.

Moreover, the dems knew that Bush was hot to trot on Amnesty so I’m sure they took full advantage of that. Don’t kid yourself. Bush has the power of the bully pulpit to get just about any needed reform dealing with security and alien tracking from democrats if he puts enough heat on them. So far, national security seems to be no more than a poker chip with Bush.

289 posted on 03/19/2002 8:19:40 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Luis Gonzalez
But you have claimed that Bush would grant amnesty to millions, while claiming that it isn't a "blanket amnesty", right?

Yes.

Take the common definition that "blanket amnesty" means Amnesty for all Illegals...

If there are, say, 10 million Illegals in the country, and an Amnesty is granted to 5 million, then Bush could honestly say, "There was no BLANKET Amnesty."

The corollary of of this, given this common definition, is that when Bush promises something like "I don't favor a blanket amnesty," he isn't promising much.

Let President Bush be bold, and say that he opposes all Amnesty, under any name.

I'd trust that promise.




290 posted on 03/19/2002 8:21:31 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Luis Gonzalez
ST: "...they will be legalized for a fee of $1,000. That's Amnesty."

LG: "When you violate the speed limit, and a policeman gives you a citation, is that a "fee" or a fine?"

When a burglar breaks into your house, and gets to live there after paying a $1,000 fine...

Has the Rule of Law been upheld?




291 posted on 03/19/2002 8:25:46 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Twodees
They've read it, they're just lying about it so they can keep howling "xenophobe" at anyone who won't tag along with the Open Borders treason lobby.
292 posted on 03/19/2002 8:27:10 PM PST by Pelham
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To: Big Meanie
I'm in trouble enough for things that I do say. You don't have to make up stuff.

Welcome to the strategy of the Illegal apologists.

Did you know that you're a racist and a Xenophobe?




293 posted on 03/19/2002 8:28:44 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: 4ourprogeny
Bush can bet his sombrero that the wishes of the American people are against amnesty. Shame on you senor Presidente. Shame on you!

Yep, but I doubt the "wishes of the American people" is going to stop Bush from doing his little mini-amnesties here and there each time saying "I against blanket amnesties".

294 posted on 03/19/2002 8:29:13 PM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine
You seem quite fuzzy on what the INS regulations mean. I'm quite sure that the INS doesn't know what it means either. LOL.,/i>

You want to bet? LOL. Remember Im an amateur. Today was my first trip to the INS website.

295 posted on 03/19/2002 8:29:31 PM PST by Dave S
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To: Sabertooth
In the past, your posts have accused Bush of seeking a "blanket amnesty" for illegal immigrants.

No. Never.

I've been accused frequently of having said that, but I've studiously pointed out it's not true.

Nor do I now believe President Bush seeks a "blanket amnesty."

285 posted on 3/19/02 9:07 PM Pacific by Sabertooth

But you have claimed that Bush would grant amnesty to millions, while claiming that it isn't a "blanket amnesty", right?

Yes.

Take the common definition that "blanket amnesty" means Amnesty for all Illegals...

I never said the 245(i) modifications would result in millions of Amnesties. Never.

Others have, but I've been consistently going with the 200,000 number. I believe on one post I mentioned estimates of 200,000 and 350,000. But I've stayed with the smaller number.

I never said the 245(i) modifications would result in millions of Amnesties. Never.

Others have, but I've been consistently going with the 200,000 number. I believe on one post I mentioned estimates of 200,000 and 350,000. But I've stayed with the smaller number.

Guess you'll need other goalposts.


296 posted on 03/19/2002 8:29:58 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Pelham
They've read it, they're just lying about it so they can keep howling "xenophobe" at anyone who won't tag along with the Open Borders treason lobby.

Sure as a skunk stinks.

Rather a remarkable display of disingenuousness, no?




297 posted on 03/19/2002 8:30:48 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Did your post come through as intended?

I couldn't follow your point.



298 posted on 03/19/2002 8:32:42 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
When a burglar breaks into my house, and is apprehended, a Court imposes a fitting judgement.

It can be incarceration, it can be a fine and retribution, the charges may even be dismissed and yes, the rule of law has been upheld.

It doesn't have to mean jail does it?

BTW, try better arguments, that simple crap doesn't fly.

299 posted on 03/19/2002 8:33:19 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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