"But Dick Armey said..."
"But the Wall Street Journal said..."
"But it's not a BLANKET AMNESTY..."
"Bush is a genius, because..."
Sorry, enough of all that. Go read the legislation.
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To: Sabertooth
I'l take dick armey, a true conservative over a BYRD BRAIN anytime.
4 posted on
03/19/2002 1:52:25 AM PST by
quimby
To: Sabertooth
Hey suicide pilots a job not too many Americans will do these days.
5 posted on
03/19/2002 1:57:16 AM PST by
junta
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So Glad I got my muffler.....
To: Sabertooth
Section 245 of the Act allows an alien to apply for adjustment of status to that of a lawful permanent resident (LPR) while in the United States if certain conditions are met. The alien must have been inspected and admitted or paroled, be eligible for an immigrant visa and admissible for permanent residence, and, with some exceptions, have maintained lawful nonimmigrant status. The alien must also not have engaged in unauthorized employment. Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.
So, if they are "eligible" for legal admission, let them apply by legal means. That whole "description" of the law is legaleze gibberish which opens up dozens of contradictory loopholes.
The GWB Team made a mistake supporting/pushing this provision of the bill. Amnesty was a "sore" topic when it was first passed in the mid 1990's. After 9-11, after the INS fiasco with the Atta entry approval, the GWB Team should have looked at the polls reflecting the mood of the Nation on this issue. Most polls were 80%+ opposed to amnesty--due in part to the recent attacks on America.
GWB Team may have been playing political "strategery" with this--but many of the people opposing amnesty will see it as a sell out. GWB Team has given the Dems a hot button issue. Bad "strategery" for GWB.
I thank Senator Byrd--on this issue. GWB Team is wrong on this one.
8 posted on
03/19/2002 2:18:35 AM PST by
TomGuy
To: Sabertooth
Very good work-you are that proverbial 'gentleman & a scholar'. Thanks!!
To: Sabertooth
"But it's not a BLANKET AMNESTY..." And it's not, it was directed at about 200,000 people to reunite families, but you go ahead and blather on what you think it is. But that does not matter your hero in a pointy white sheet and anti-impeachment, Robert Byrd has come to your rescue.
BTW, he is also holding up needed changes and reforms in border security.
I also wonder if your new hero(grand wizard Byrd) will support the Attorney General having the right to fire anybody in the INS for incompetance. Currently he can't, because of people like Byrd.
12 posted on
03/19/2002 2:57:13 AM PST by
Dane
To: Sabertooth
Some, I'm certain, will prefer not to believe their lying eyes.I couldn't get the link for HR 1885 to work. Good work on all the actual language, I'm going to find 1885 and read it entirely, even though the hero du jour, BYRD, has seemed to make all the fussin' & fightin' moot.
To: Sabertooth
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15 posted on
03/19/2002 3:16:12 AM PST by
D. Miles
To: Sabertooth
I applaud your patience. We have a few dozen shills (if that many) who keep telling us that we're xenophobic idiots who refuse to read the bill, while they haven't read it themselves and instead are defending the ABC News version.
As you have carefully gleaned from the official sources, this is amnesty.
20 posted on
03/19/2002 3:31:32 AM PST by
Twodees
To: Sabertooth
If you entered the United States unlawfully, if you entered with permission but did not stay in lawful status, or if you worked without permission, you normally would have to leave the United States in order to apply for an immigrant visa. Special rules under section 245(i) may allow you to apply to adjust status without leaving the United States. Where are those special rules. You never posted those. And it says may apply, not automatically granted.
26 posted on
03/19/2002 3:46:22 AM PST by
Dane
To: Sabertooth
BTT
36 posted on
03/19/2002 4:57:41 AM PST by
harpseal
To: Sabertooth
Entered the U.S. without being inspected by an INS official. That pretty much applies to all illegals ---including the ones here to bring drugs.
40 posted on
03/19/2002 5:33:19 AM PST by
FITZ
To: Sabertooth
Once upon a time, I'd be content to wait for the Readers Digest "condensed version". RD got bought out by some liberal German company, so I can't do that any more. I gotta slog though the original text now, and cancel my subscription to RD. (RD has indeed taken a marked left turn too). Thanks for digging this out ST.
45 posted on
03/19/2002 6:15:25 AM PST by
kylaka
To: Sabertooth
Call Robert Bird..Call Robert Bird..he is the only one left with any common sense..and boy does that mean we are in trouble
We have to encourage him not to trade the amnesty bill for some WV pork ( that is my biggest fear!)
48 posted on
03/19/2002 6:30:34 AM PST by
RnMomof7
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Any thoughts here?
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Its as clear as mud. Robert Byrd gets it. Why didn't Dick Armey? Americans in the post 9-11 environment want less immigration and more emphasis placed on securing our borders. This is not the time to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Its time to put America first. The Senate should kill Section 245(i).
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