Posted on 03/19/2002 1:49:07 AM PST by Sabertooth
That's what Bush should be demanding of Fox. With all those oil reserves in Mexico ---plus the fact they've allowed the oil infrastructure to decay, there should be plenty of jobs for them im Mexico. We allow Mexico to stay extremely corrupt, it seems they'd rather make their money by being the number one supplier of illegal drugs rather than be a decent country.
...it was directed at about 200,000 people to reunite families...
Needless to say, I have questions:
1) So the illegals who took advangage of the last amnesty are now entitled to bring in all their siblings? And you think this is a good idea?
2)What is the source of the figure 200,000? How do you know it won't be 2,000,000?
3)Why do you think it's a good idea to reward people who have violated our immigration laws by giving an amnesty, full or partial, for any reason?
There you go with the "blanket amnesty" straw man again.
Funny how the meaning of that phrase shifts so quickly for those of you who obsess over it.
When a mini-amnesty is pointed out, you run around saying, "it's not a BLANKET Amnesty!" As though that was the point. Yet when you do, you are at least making the correct distinction between a partial and a full ("blanket") amnesty.
However, when President Bush makes a promise against "blanket amnesty," and it's pointed out that this is not a promise against any or every partial Amnesty (which is consistent with the definition you were originally using in your straw man attempt), you feel its out of bounds.
I take President Bush at his word when he says he doesn't favor "blanket amnesty." I also believe that he's looking for any means possible, by any name possible, to grant Amnesty ("normalize," "regularize," etc.) to millions of Illegals.
Just not all of them. Hence: "no blanket amnesty."
You have a good one now.... don't forget your papers when you leave to go out today.
And your point is?...Fact is, he's supporting what Americans want on this one. GWB's support of immigration at this time in our history is unacceptable.
We have to encourage him not to trade the amnesty bill for some WV pork ( that is my biggest fear!)
When you have figures for the numbers of miles on the Mexican border, the number of miles currently fenced, and the amount of money it will cost to complete the fence, we will talk.
As far as enforcing the laws, I believe I just saw that Tyson was under prosecution for bringing in illegal aliens, something that wasn't done for the previous 8 years. But you stick to your view and wallow in your anger.
No point in arguing, is there? We simply disagree.
It'll be a drop in the bucket compared to what it will cost to support the next 11 million illegal aliens that cross the border.
Wow, that must be one hell of a big factory Tyson has there, if all 11 million illegal aliens, presently in the U.S., are working there. What a farce. 20 years and we have an ongoing investigation of Tyson's Chicken to show for all the anti-illegal immigration laws that are on the books.
More great detective work there, Miss Marple.
That's great news about Tyson.
As for anger, I'm fed up with both parties on the matter of Illegals. There has been bipartisan malfeasance in enforcing our immigration laws for decades. I was angry with Clinton and Gore for their scuttling of many citizenship standards, as well as English-speaking requirements. And I'll freely acknowledge that this mini-Amnesty by Bush is an extension of an earlier one by Clinton.
But Clinton's gone, and I've no use for stomping on his effigy while the President I voted for breaks faith with the American People by shrugging off the "one time only" Amnesty promise of 1986.
I supported that Amnesty, and I've lived to regret it. It was a clarion call to Illegals, and my state has suffered. We've passed 10% and are headed to 15% Illegals in our population. There are 2 million Illegals in my county.
I honestly don't think you appreciate the magnitude of the problem here.
Any Amnesty for Illegals, regardless of size, only emboldens them, and draws more.
People North of the Mason-Dixon and East of the Mississippi who wax compassionate about reuniting Illegals with their families, etc. have that luxury because they don't have to live the consequences of their self-congratulation.
And please show me any quote where Bush says, everybody come to the US. Just one
You beleive the hyperbole and fear mongering and it is more than unacceptable it is sad.
This suggestion ignores the fact that the Mexican government's objectives are exactly the opposite. They benefit enormously from using mass emigration to the north as 1) a pressure valve for their overpopulated, mismanaged country and 2) a source of hard cash for their economy, via money sent home from emigrant workers. That's the good part.
The bad part is that they also see mass emigration to the US as an effective tool for gaining political leverage over their powerful neighbor to the north. By allowing dual citizenship they create a situation where Mexican nationals can become a significant electoral block in American politics, but still retain their identification with the home country. In coming years, they will influence this bloc's behavior at the American polls, and broker that influence in Washington to their benefit - and the average American's detriment. Also, in coming years almost all state and local government from Texas of California will be in the hands of Hispanics, whose national loyalty to Mexico will still be strong. They will govern strongly in the interest of Hispanics (having no appreciation for the caucasian, progressive ideals of equal treatment and civil rights) and ultimately will seek to reintegrate that area with Mexico.
This has been throughly thought through in Mexico, and they have every intention of trying to make it happen. They are not at all interested in keeping people home in Mexico.
This problem was exacerbated by the previous administrations rush just before '96. THAT WAS THE SENT MESSAGE that created this mess. Fixing it requires one of two things, documenting them, and making them LPR, or CATCHING them, Deporting them, and then Probably documenting them.
The INS is barely capable of the first. They are not Capable of the second.
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