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To: 4Freedom
OK. I don't know what I'm talking about. Whatever.

When you have figures for the numbers of miles on the Mexican border, the number of miles currently fenced, and the amount of money it will cost to complete the fence, we will talk.

As far as enforcing the laws, I believe I just saw that Tyson was under prosecution for bringing in illegal aliens, something that wasn't done for the previous 8 years. But you stick to your view and wallow in your anger.

No point in arguing, is there? We simply disagree.

49 posted on 03/19/2002 6:36:43 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
MM, you sound like a typical bureaucrat. You want all kinds of numbers before we can talk about fencing the borders. Ok, I'll call Sears for an estimate. :-)

It'll be a drop in the bucket compared to what it will cost to support the next 11 million illegal aliens that cross the border.

Wow, that must be one hell of a big factory Tyson has there, if all 11 million illegal aliens, presently in the U.S., are working there. What a farce. 20 years and we have an ongoing investigation of Tyson's Chicken to show for all the anti-illegal immigration laws that are on the books.

More great detective work there, Miss Marple.

51 posted on 03/19/2002 6:55:36 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Miss Marple
As far as enforcing the laws, I believe I just saw that Tyson was under prosecution for bringing in illegal aliens, something that wasn't done for the previous 8 years. But you stick to your view and wallow in your anger.

That's great news about Tyson.

As for anger, I'm fed up with both parties on the matter of Illegals. There has been bipartisan malfeasance in enforcing our immigration laws for decades. I was angry with Clinton and Gore for their scuttling of many citizenship standards, as well as English-speaking requirements. And I'll freely acknowledge that this mini-Amnesty by Bush is an extension of an earlier one by Clinton.

But Clinton's gone, and I've no use for stomping on his effigy while the President I voted for breaks faith with the American People by shrugging off the "one time only" Amnesty promise of 1986.

I supported that Amnesty, and I've lived to regret it. It was a clarion call to Illegals, and my state has suffered. We've passed 10% and are headed to 15% Illegals in our population. There are 2 million Illegals in my county.

I honestly don't think you appreciate the magnitude of the problem here.

Any Amnesty for Illegals, regardless of size, only emboldens them, and draws more.

People North of the Mason-Dixon and East of the Mississippi who wax compassionate about reuniting Illegals with their families, etc. have that luxury because they don't have to live the consequences of their self-congratulation.




52 posted on 03/19/2002 7:06:18 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Miss Marple
If we can just give 5 billion away in foriegn welfare each year we could certainly afford to build a fence. I just built a chain link fence for 11 clams a foot (with labor). It's only 6 feet high but I'll call it 11 bucks for an 8 footer too. So 6 bucks times 5280 feet times 2200 miles = 127,776,000. Compare that to the burden we all carry that is anywhere from 1-25 billion to support illegals on all forms of assistance and you have a bargain on your hands.

EBUCK

83 posted on 03/19/2002 8:27:54 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: Miss Marple
Just as an aside, fairly serious fence costs about 20./ft. in quantity. With about 2000. miles of border with Mexico, that would take about 200 million dollars if my math is correct.

If it is 5 times that amount, it would be a bargain.

BTW, I have recently been on the border, and what the govt calls a fence is pathetic, what little of it there is.

362 posted on 03/19/2002 9:52:23 PM PST by wcbtinman
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