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To: CobaltBlue
Now let me guess. It's all the women's fault. The men would be wonderful fathers but the mothers won't let them.

I don't believe the article said that and I know I certainly didn't. I believe the point is you should not dismiss the father as a viable parent just because he isn't the mother. Women do not have a monopoly on effective parenting.

6 posted on 03/18/2002 6:50:24 AM PST by AUgrad
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To: AUgrad
My experience with single moms is that they tend to spoil their sons rotten and when the sons reach the age they can kick mom's butt, the mother throws up her hands and says "I can't do anything with him". She is left with one recourse: defending him as innocent because she is hostage to his behavior.
7 posted on 03/18/2002 7:06:36 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: AUgrad
Women are not "the better parent," that is for sure. Women are as a rule too soft-hearted to address behavioral problems as a man would do.

Men in general tend to see the big picture. Moms sweat the details. That is why God intended that a family be comprised of one husband and one wife who have children TOGETHER, so that those children, male and female, will have the best possible environment in which to grow up.

Fathers most often provide the discipline; mothers provide the nuruturing.

That isn't to say mothers can't discipline (mine sure could) or that fathers can't nurture (I think I'm not half bad at that with my own daughter), but their various strengths compliment one another in the rearing of children.

BTW, I've been on both sides of the fence. My first marriage ended in divorce when my first wife decided "life was passing her by" and took her "friends'" advice to "get rid of the jerk" (defined as "any male").

So I was pretty much shut out of their upbringing.

I remarried "on the rebound" as they say, a very ill-advised decision that also ended in divorce within a few years. But this time, I got custody of my daughter from that marriage, and have been rearing her ever since.

I think I've done well as a parent for my kid, and although my present (and future) wife pitches in a great deal, my daughter still looks to me as the primary parent.

She loves her mother, and visits her when she can, but she would rather be with me, where she feels "safe".

Her mother reared four older sons, two of whom are in jail now, and all of whom have police records. The woman NEVER COULD discipline worth a hoot.

9 posted on 03/18/2002 7:33:28 AM PST by Illbay
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To: AUgrad
I don't know why people believe that only mothers get custody. It's simply not true. If a man really wants joint custody or even primary custody, he's got a fair shot at it.

The question is, who took care of the child before the two split up?

If the mother has done all the child-rearing, and then gets a support order, and then all of a sudden the man wants custody, it's going to look like he just wants out of child support. Similarly, if the man just shows up out of the blue, he's going to have to start with visitation and prove himself.

On the other hand, if the father acted like Mr. Mom before the two split up, he's got a very good shot at custody, split custody, or shared custody.

Most men are satisfied with visitation, at most. Some don't want anything to do with the kid. My guess is that the kids who grow up to be criminals were abandoned by their fathers, and that the dad wasn't much to begin with.

15 posted on 03/18/2002 11:36:19 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: AUgrad
I don't know why people believe that only mothers get custody. It's simply not true. If a man really wants joint custody or even primary custody, he's got a fair shot at it.

The question is, who took care of the child before the two split up?

If the mother has done all the child-rearing, and then gets a support order, and then all of a sudden the man wants custody, it's going to look like he just wants out of child support. Similarly, if the man just shows up out of the blue, he's going to have to start with visitation and prove himself.

On the other hand, if the father acted like Mr. Mom before the two split up, he's got a very good shot at custody, split custody, or shared custody.

Most men are satisfied with visitation, at most. Some don't want anything to do with the kid. My guess is that the kids who grow up to be criminals were abandoned by their fathers, and that the dad wasn't much to begin with.

16 posted on 03/18/2002 11:36:43 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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