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To: AUgrad
I don't know why people believe that only mothers get custody. It's simply not true. If a man really wants joint custody or even primary custody, he's got a fair shot at it.

The question is, who took care of the child before the two split up?

If the mother has done all the child-rearing, and then gets a support order, and then all of a sudden the man wants custody, it's going to look like he just wants out of child support. Similarly, if the man just shows up out of the blue, he's going to have to start with visitation and prove himself.

On the other hand, if the father acted like Mr. Mom before the two split up, he's got a very good shot at custody, split custody, or shared custody.

Most men are satisfied with visitation, at most. Some don't want anything to do with the kid. My guess is that the kids who grow up to be criminals were abandoned by their fathers, and that the dad wasn't much to begin with.

15 posted on 03/18/2002 11:36:19 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: CobaltBlue;harrison bergeron;rdb3;paul atreides;senator pardek;woahhs;wwjdn;carenot;Iron Jack
The fallacies and steretypes in your post are legion. ---I don't know why people believe that only mothers get custody. It's simply not true.

It's true in 85-90% of cases, by every relliable statistical measure. Just change "only" to "in vast majority part".

---If the mother has done all the child-rearing, and then gets a support order, and then all of a sudden the man wants custody, it's going to look like he just wants out of child support.

One of the most anti-father myths is that when a father files for custody, he just wants out of child support. Most fathers are not so heartless. They love their kids, and want to raise them.

---On the other hand, if the father acted like Mr. Mom before the two split up, he's got a very good shot at custody, split custody, or shared custody.

It's sexist to use the appelation "Mr. Mom". There are two million stay at home fathers. They are not imiation mothers; they are primary caregiver fathers.

---Most men are satisfied with visitation, at most.

Type in the phrase "father's rights", including quotation marks, at http://www.google.com or visit http://www.fathermag.com or http://www.glennjsacks.com of http://www.dadi.org or a thousand thousand other father's rights websites, all of which strongly dispute your contention that "most men are satisfied" with being reduced to being visitors in the lives of their own children.

64 posted on 04/03/2002 4:42:58 PM PST by The Giant Apricots
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To: CobaltBlue
Most men are satisfied with visitation, at most.

You are clearly the most clueless person on the surface of the earth.

84 posted on 06/10/2002 4:36:28 PM PDT by J.R.R. Tolkien
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