[CobaltBlue]

>>Eighty-five percent of prisoners, 78% of high school dropouts, 82% of teenage girls who become pregnant, the majority of drug and alcohol abusers—all come from single-mother-headed households.<< Is it possible that the fathers of these children had something wrong with them that was passed on to the children?

I think this is a fair hypothesis. What would happen if we tracked down the fathers? Do you think it's more likely that they are normal, decent members of society, married, settled down, and raising normal children, or that they are drug using losers who can't hold down a job, or in prison themselves?

Now let me guess. It's all the women's fault. The men would be wonderful fathers but the mothers won't let them.

[AUgrad]

Now let me guess. It's all the women's fault. The men would be wonderful fathers but the mothers won't let them.

I don't believe the article said that and I know I certainly didn't. I believe the point is you should not dismiss the father as a viable parent just because he isn't the mother. Women do not have a monopoly on effective parenting.

[Capt.YankeeMike]

From my viewpoint, although I know you said this "tongue in cheek" you statement is absolutely correct. While none of the absent fathers I know are saints, neither are the women, and they all love their kids. After the money runs out for lawyers, they are brow beaten into submission by the courts, and the support payments start, they have nothing, emotionally or financially, left to fight with.

[The Giant Apricots]

Now let me guess. It's all the women's fault. The men would be wonderful fathers but the mothers won't let them.

Hyperbolic sarcasm does not a good argument make.

1. There are fathers who abdicate their responsibilities.

2. However, there are even more fathers who indeed, have every interest in parenting but "the mothers won't let them".

I acknowledge #1; do you acknowledge #2?

And the point of father's rights groups is that systemic sexism in the court system and the legislatures subsidizes and promotes #2, and thus makes it the prevailing case.

[right2parent]

Now let me guess. It's all the women's fault. The men would be wonderful fathers but the mothers won't let them.

Now you're catching on. That's why mostly women file for divorce since no-fault "liberated" them, and since the courts lost respect for natural rights, and since lawyers stopped challenging the courts taking charge of children without adjudicating the fitness of lawful guardians.