[OldFriend]

If women are ever indeed to be emancipated we must be responsible for ourselves and our actions and not depend on a man or anyone else to assume responsibility for us or our actions.

[twyn1]

Well yeah--"I am woman hear me roar" and all that -- But the point here is:

Andrea Yates was unable to take responsiblity for herself (or for her children) because of her mental state -- and a decent husband and father would have done something (anything !) about this and been there to protect the kids and help his wife (not because he was a chauvinist, but because he cared for & loved them)

[Baseballguy]

Oh yes I like this. Women are slaves now.....Barf Alert