Rats draw fewer Anglo votes In TX( But Hispanic turnout positive sign for party = Close Border ASAP

Houston Chronicle | 3/16/2002 | By R.G. RATCLIFFE

[log_cabin_gop_boy]

We proved it could be done with the Orlando Sanchez campaign in Houston

The only thing proved in the Orlando Sanchez campaign was that Hispanics would vote for a Hispanic candidate and Blacks vote for a Black candidate. In Houston this worked to Lee Brown's advantage. In November, Blacks and Hispanics will each have a Democratic candidate leading the ticket and will likely beat the white Republicans.

[TaxMe]

I too think the GOP will pull it off this fall. Texans only have to look across the border to see how Hispanics perform in power. By the way, I couldn't believe that "spanish debate." In a few years, all state government south of the Nueces river will be conducted in spanish. Talk about assimilation.

[Dog Gone]

In your dreams, pal.

[TaxMe]

Of course. Haven't you finished your indoctrination program yet. Everyone knows that blacks and hispanics cannot discriminate against anyone because they are the protected minority. --sarcasm if not apparent [you'd be surprised]

[log_cabin_gop_boy]

Errr. I am a Republican from Texas that now lives in California. But, I have seen what has happened in California over the last ten years and can see the demographic trends in Texas mirroring California.

In November we know that 95% of Blacks will vote Democratic

80% of Hispanics will vote Democratic

35-40% of whites will vote Democratic. Things look bleak for the GOP in Texas.

[Dog Gone]

I think it's just amazing that Texas could go from being the only big state with 100% Republicans in statewide office, to having an outlook that is "bleak" in just four years.

Count how many blacks are in the US Senate today, and then tell me with a straight face that Texas is going to elect one who is virtually unknown outside of the city of Dallas.

Bleak indeed.

[TaxMe]

Not bleak but very concerning. Given the racial demographics that will make anglos a minority in the near future, Texas Republicans should be concerned given hispanic and black voting trends.

Per the 2000 US Census: Texas' population: 20,851,820 of which black's constitute 11.5%; hispanic 32% and white 52.4%.

[Dog Gone]

The trend is not good, if traditional voting patterns remain the same. Of course, minority voting strength hasn't been proportionate to population, either.

It's not going to pose a problem this election, but there's little doubt that the GOP must make inroads into the minority voter population in order to survive.

[TaxMe]

What are your thoughts on where such inroads may be made. I think the consensus seems to be in the hispanic community. While blacks can be very socially conservative, their community in general seems to be stuck in the politics of victimhood worshipping at the feet of the DNC god [why else would any race vote 92% for one party?]. In contrast, the hispanic community is more opportunistic in taking benefit of the educational and employment avenues available for all Americans. While I have issues with hispanic's ability to assimilate into our common culture, there community appears to be more receptive to the GOP message of self-reliance.

[Spirited]

Don't have time to read comments, all I can think is "so that's the reason Mr. Bush is doing the amnesty thing".

[Euro-American Scum]

Don't have time to read comments, all I can think is "so that's the reason Mr. Bush is doing the amnesty thing".

And if he thinks by opening the borders and declaring a blanket amnesty the Latino vote will just fall into his lap, he doesn't know the power of local RAT workers or the abject murderous hatred minorities have for the Republican party.

[Dog Gone]

It appears that it isn't possible to make inroads in the black voting group. Bush ran a very inclusive campaign, showcasing blacks at the GOP convention and letting it be known that Powell would be the choice of Secretary of State and Rice the National Security Advisor.

He was outspoken for his desire to see vouchers, which blacks overwhelmingly support.

All to no avail. It's difficult to imagine a more overwhelming rejection by a voting block or anything else he could have done to prevent that.

Hispanics never have voted as monolithically as blacks, although the poorer classes tend to vote Democrat as the party of handouts. So, clearly the opportunity is there. We've also seen where a conservative hispanic candidate can draw overwhelming support from that group. The same cannot be said about conservative blacks.

Assimilation is also a problem, but not to the extent that we see in the black population. I think a stronger case can be made that most blacks haven't assimilated, even though in many cases their families have been Americans longer than many whites. Their neighborhoods are more segregated than hispanic neighborhoods and that group has professional poverty pimps unlike the hispanic community. Blacks have even made up phoney baloney cultural ideas like Kwanzaa.

Obviously, these are generalizations, and as blacks move up the economic rung, they are more likely to move out of those neighborhoods and vote Republican. Additionally, there are certainly hispanic enclaves that rival the worst inner city neighborhoods.

But I see many hispanic professionals in business here in Texas, and most vote conservatively. It's so common that I rarely even give it a second thought, whereas the black professional is still a relative rarity. Of course, many hispanics in Texas were here before the war for independence and hardly a part of a new immigration wave.

We can continue to attract hispanic voters to the Party. I have litte doubt of that. But black voters? We should continue our efforts, but I am extremely doubtful that we'll have much success.

[Holden Magroin]

[Holden Magroin]

When they want to go home to Mexico, they just get caught by the INS,... a free meal and a bus ride home. If they commit a crime the fastest way out of town is the..."INS bus service."

Dude, you got that from a Cheech and Chong movie.

[FreePaul]

The only thing proved in the Orlando Sanchez campaign was that Hispanics would vote for a Hispanic candidate

Sanchez didn't carry an overwhelming percentage of the "Hispanic" vote. There was a considerable vote against Sanchez in the "Hispanic" community because he is from Cuba rather than Mexico.

[log_cabin_gop_boy]

There was a considerable vote against Sanchez in the "Hispanic" community because he is from Cuba rather than Mexico.

If that is truly the case then Tony Sanchez can expect even more votes than Orlando Sanchez in Houston as well as the rest of Texas. This is not to mention the Black vote in Houston and Dallas that will vote 90% for the Democrats if Kirk is on the ticket.

[Dog Gone]

Sanchez didn't carry an overwhelming percentage of the "Hispanic" vote. There was a considerable vote against Sanchez in the "Hispanic" community because he is from Cuba rather than Mexico

Orlando Sachez got 75% of the hispanic vote. That's overwhelming in any dictionary.