Posted on 03/17/2002 2:25:49 PM PST by Mom_Grandmother
Is It Possible, Could America Have Won the Vietnam War In '1968?
By '1968, North Vietnamese morale was at it's lowest point ever. The plans for "Tet" '68 was their last desperate attempt to achieve a success, in an effort to boost the NVA morale. When it was over, General Giap (Senior General Vo Njuyen Giap) and NVA viewed the Tet '68 offensive as a "failure", they were on their knees and had prepared to negotiate a "surrender."
At the time, there were fewer than 10,000 U.S. casualties, the Vietnam War was about to end, as the NVA was prepared to accept their defeat. Then, they heard "Walter Cronkite" (former CBS News anchor and correspondent) on TV proclaiming the success of the Tet '68 offensive by the NVA. They were completely and totall amazed at hearing tha the US Embassy had been overrun. In reality, the NVA had not gained access to the Embassy--there were some VC who had been killed on the grassy lawn, but they hadn't gained access. Further reports indicated that riots and protesting on the streets of America.
According to General Giap, these distorted reports were insperational to the NVA. They changed their plans from a negotiated surrender and decided instead, they only needed to persevere for one more hour, day, week, month, eventually the protesters in America would help them to achieve a victory they knew they could not win on the battlefield.
Remember, this decision was made at a time when the U.S. casualties were fewer than 10,000, at the end of '1967, beginning of '1968. Today, there were 58,000 names on the Vietnam Wall Memorial that was built with the donations made by the American public.
Although General Giap did not mention each and every protester's name in his book, many of us will never forget the 58,000 names on the Wall. We will also never forget that names of those who helped in placing those additional 48,000 names there: Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, Walter Cronkite, and other's.
Gene Kuentzler, '66-67, S-3 Operations 19th Combat Engineer Battalion
In short: What's "win"?
I was most fortunate in having family members that served in previous wars, insist that I go to VA Hospital for a physical and medical care almost immediately after my discharge. My physical problems were documented by them at that time. It established a baseline, so to speak. I know others (like you) that didn't go to VA for years after discharge. They were greeted with, "WHAT do you want NOW?"
I do believe current DVA Chief is a decent/honorable man who is sincerely TRYING to change the DVA. Will he be successful? I certainly hope so!
Sounds like you weren't there....because if you had been you would know that the war was a political charade and the US armed forces were prohibited from executing the victory. After the bombing stopped--prematurely, I might add--we were not allowed to fight to win.
In the end we were ordered home by politicos who saw their re-elections being more impacted by the likes of Fonda and Cronkite than the true meaning of "Peace with Honor".
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This was the exact problem. By 1968 our military policy was being run exclusively by leftist street demonstrations, by leftists in the media, by leftists in academia, by leftists in entertainment, and by leftists in politics responding to them. Each of these groups was portrayed as being the dominent voice in America with no credible refutation.
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I don't know of any, if you learn of one, please let me know.
After 199 posts to this thread you nailed it precisely!
Fact is that there never was a time, from Jan. 1966 - Dec. 1970, when the war couldn't have been definitively won, within 6 months, given the political WILL to do so!
"A Bright Shining Lie" which looks at Vietnam through the perspective of John Paul Vann. It is by Neil Sheehan who is on the liberal side but the history is good if you overlook some of his liberal opinions. Often when enough time has elapsed liberals (such as William Shirer) can come up with good histories because nothing is currently at stake.
We could have won the Vietnam War by creating a Mekong Delta State for the 8 million or so South Vietnamese capitalists, using the Mekong River as a natural and easily defendable border.
See my blog post for how it could have worked:
http://eversmarterworld.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/leadership-foresight-and-security-how-we-should-have-won-the-vietnam-war/
Unfortunately our political and military leadership never learned from the First Indochina War (with the French) that without such a Total Defense Strategy, we were very unlikely to win.
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