Posted on 03/17/2002 1:36:37 PM PST by Sabertooth
For the past 10 years, I voted Republican, rain or shine. I was a single-issue voter.
My only concern was that the candidate be a Republican.
Why?
Because I don't like what the Democrat Party has done to America.
This year, another issue arises that concerns me greatly… so much so, that I might not be voting Republican this November. I'll maintain my GOP registration, but my vote is suddenly in play, where it hadn't been for 10 years.
That issue is: Illegal Immigration, and Federal Amnesties for Illegals.
Some agree, and some don't… that's fine. In any event, I've been active and vehement on the Illegal threads, to the displeasure of not a few. I've been called a few names, and that's to be expected (goes with being a Republican, no?) Among them are "racist," "xenophobe," "libertarian," "Buchananite," "knee-jerk," etc… And…
"Single-issue voter."
As though that's somehow damning. I was a single-issue voter beore, but now it's just a different issue. What bothers some is that it's a different single issue than theirs. Further, I don't really understand those who use this term in the pejorative… Is there no issue, position, or policy on which the GOP could lose your vote? Is there no circumstance under which you would part ways?
Your right to vote is your currency in the Political Economy. If your support is never in doubt, what is the incentive of politicians to listen to you? Do you continue to patronize restaurants with good food and bad service? Or do you let your wallet do the talking?
If so, then why should politics be any different?
How do you feel when arrogant party functionaries mock you, asking "Do you want Hillary?" or "You gonna vote Democrat?" or some other such demagoguery? Are we nothing but pawns?
Or do moments arise when notice must be loudly given to our "leaders," who serve at our pleasure, that there will be an electoral price paid for failing to heed the will of the American People?
This person is not hostile to the rule of law. Clinton was not hostile to the rule of law, he just liked to fool around. Andrea Yates is not hostile to the rule of law either. Her kids just upset her a little bit. There are posters on this site who think John Kerry is conservative.
Actually, in light of the theme of this thread, since I don't like GWB's stance on a few things, I think I will vote for Ralph Nader if he runs. That will show the Republicans who don't agree with me. Then.....I'm going to move to Vermont and work for Bernie Sanders. Now that will show those RINO's.
Because they're an Illegal Immigrant advocacy group.
They favor a general Amnesty. Just about everyone who isn't opposed to Illegals is running around saying 245(i) extension isn't an Amnesty. Why? Because they know which way the political wind is blowing.
Letting Illegals stay = Amnesty for those Illegals.
Considering this is basically a a thread which revolves around dissent on something that 70% of the American public doesn't actually approve of and that is already actually being passed as we speak, isnt this essentially the silent majority speaking out in the truest sense of the term?
I agree with you on the difference between emotionally charged comments and facts.
Most of the facts from the people that lean towards being proponents of this amnesty program seem to be mysteriously missing with the exception of an extreme few.
So where does that leave the other supporters of this amnesty program? With the facts or with emotion?
I think I'll let you answer that one.
Earth to Sabertooth, using your own logic they should be thrilled with 245(i). They aren't.
...Most of the facts from the people that lean towards being proponents of this amnesty program seem to be mysteriously missing with the exception of an extreme few.
Bump that
Yes, they're greedy and want more.
I respectfully submt the following for your thoughts.
Is it possible that by trying to teach the GOP a lesson and vote for a 3rd party or a democrat the GOP isn't learning the lesson you're hoping to teach them? Is it possible that by seeing dems get elected constantly via this type of thinking the GOP is mistakenly thinking that the American public must be more liberal than they thought and move to the left more and more to try to win those votes back?
I know that's not what the point of voting 3rd party is but nobody ever accused most of these guys,(and gals), of being rocket scientists. IMHO, the more we remove the GOP base support by trying to "teach them a lesson", the further left they move to try to regain the votes they lost.
Whatever tooth. They(amnesty lobby) suerly show their appreciation for what you call "amnesty" in a very appreciative way./sarcasm
False documents, false documents, false documents, sold on any street corner...
I have no problem with you being a single issue voter. I have no problem with this being the issue you deem most important. My issue on which I will abstain from voting for a republican is gun control of course in a general election living in CT I am lucjy if I Have a choice other than a write in so I pick the least objectionable candidate on that basis. Almost without fail it has been a Republican.
Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
They are the ones I read here every day.
I fully agree that our southern border is an enormous problem, and there's no excuse for not having control over immigration, legal or illegal.
I'm not in favor of the periodic measures we take to bless illegal immigration. I am a strong believer in a program which allows Mexican citizens to come to America to work on a temporary basis and is generous in allowing repeat visits. We need those workers.
If Bush can come up with a package that allows Mexicans access to those jobs, addresses some of the humanitarian issues caused by previous failed policies, and, most importantly, gets control of our borders, then I'm hard pressed to see how any reasonable person could oppose it.
Yes, if we do it quietly.
But it's mid-March, the election's in November, and we're making a racket now.
Additionally, I think the Simon victory in CA has raised a few eyebrows.
It's gotta come with substantial deportations from the interior, otherwise it's just a de facto Amnesty.
You're right, Gabby. Hannity should have asked him those questions!
As much as the "stupid party" might want this issue to go away, we will not let it. Living in California, I can't think of many issues that impact my family more than this gigantic green light to illegal immigration.
Once again, you are right. I, too, live in California. And yes, this issue affects us more than anything else. It affects everything from schools to traffic to hospitals to crime to...well, everything! Name a problem that isn't affected or worsened by illegal immigration. There are none!
(The more I think about it, the angrier I get at that sneaky phrase, "entered without inspection." That's like referring to a shoplifter as someone who "left without a receipt"!)
Is this statement true?
So, in an election for the House, do we vote for the Republican who will betray us or the DemocRAT who will hurt us? Assume there is no other candidate on the ballot. That's the dilemma of your proposal. And the House is more important than the President or the Senate.
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