[Sabertooth]

I wouldn't write off the Black vote, just don't count on it. Remember, if the GOP can get just 20% of the Black vote, its all over for the Dems. So let's stick with our principles while taking a missionary outlook towards these subgroups.

And that is at the core of the strategy: a missionary effort. It doesn't mean support illegal immigration, but change the tone and discussion of the issue.

I 100% agree with your post here. See my #121.

I would only add... We shouldn't be ashamed of our principles.

[Diddle E. Squat]

I would only add... We shouldn't be ashamed of our principles.

Agreed. I recognize that we have different interpretations and ideas regarding how to solve the illegal immigration problem. My main beef with these threads is on the tone and the message. I think there are ways to discuss the issue without alienating. (Which I guess suggests the question, "Can an alien be alienated?!"