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Monterrey, Mexico, Touted As Model
yahoo.com ^ | March 15, 2002 | JULIE WATSON, AP

Posted on 03/15/2002 2:59:20 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I read it to mean it is $20 a day in Monterrey.

For a 9 hour workday, that would still work out to $2.22 per hour.
Nobody's going to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps on that wage.

41 posted on 03/16/2002 5:35:23 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm glad President George Bush is representing us at the summit. Picture Algore or Hillary wallowing on the international stage

I am not to concerned with appearances. I am very concerned with presidential actions...and inactions.

Regards

J.R.

43 posted on 03/16/2002 5:52:23 AM PST by NMC EXP
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To: Nix 2; Cincinatus' wife
Mexico's economy is so based on socialism, it's no wonder there is so much poverty there. Now the city that has progressed, Monterrey, is being called a model and I wonder how long it will be before IMF, WTO, etc., muck it up like they did Argentina.

Kofi's hatred of Jews and Monterrey's growing Jewish population, ("lost Jews" coming home) makes me very suspicious as to why they chose Monterrey. Globalists elitists don't usually flock to a city with a "middle America feel", much less Walmarts. The UN admits the Monterrey conference is for the purpose of "stepping up its surveillance of all economies" and "strengthening international tax cooperation." Wonderful, looks like Monterrey is under surveillance as the first growing economy to destroy. Global tax man cometh.

44 posted on 03/16/2002 8:31:44 AM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Of all places for the globalists to pick!

Isn't history fascinating!

45 posted on 03/16/2002 12:07:32 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Willie Green
For a 9 hour workday, that would still work out to $2.22 per hour. Nobody's going to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps on that wage.

But a whole lot better than the $4 a day elsewhere. As the father said in the article, he isn't living so well but he's there
to be sure his children are educated and able to do better. That's usually how civilizations grow.
A strong Mexico is a better neighbor and ally for the U.S. too.

46 posted on 03/16/2002 12:11:48 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: lutine
Well, you might call them enviromentalist wackos, but a good dose of third world industrial areas can change minds about pollution.

I applaud good conservation, I deplore environmentalists.

47 posted on 03/16/2002 12:13:10 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: NMC EXP
I am not to concerned with appearances. I am very concerned with presidential actions...and inactions.

So am I.

48 posted on 03/16/2002 12:14:11 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Prodigal Daughter
It's going to take some time to dig out of that socialist hell but I think the Americanization
of the Mexican people, here and in Mexico, will go a long way toward making that happen.
49 posted on 03/16/2002 12:17:18 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Monterrey, Mexico Government building.

Hmmm, now what does this remind you of?

50 posted on 03/16/2002 12:20:51 PM PST by Justa
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To: lutine
Freed Mexican Bean Farmer Invokes Compatriots' Plight-- Their defenders, including Amnesty International and the Sierra Club, said the evidence against Montiel and Cabrera was fabricated and the farmers had been tortured and forced to confess as part of a plan concocted by logging entrepreneurs who wanted to rid themselves of protesters.
51 posted on 03/16/2002 12:22:05 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: El Gato
Strictly speaking, Mexicans *are* North Americans. Central America starts at Mexico's southern border and ends at Colombia's border with Panama.

Strictly speaking...everything North of the Panama canal is North America!

52 posted on 03/16/2002 12:22:23 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: Justa
The picture of the govt. building reminds me of a lot of places. Give me a hint, so I don't look so dense.
53 posted on 03/16/2002 12:25:02 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
With more millionaires per capita than any other area in Mexico, the Monterrey metropolitan area of some 3 million people boasts the highest standard of living in Mexico. ……/……. Mercedes and BMWs zoom to strip malls and supermarkets. Many residents spend weekends at beach homes on Padre Island off the Texas coast of the Gulf of Mexico, and have adopted English words like "shopping."

We're losing our Mexican identity and instead absorbing the values of North Americans, which are well, consumerism, yes, consumerism and that's about it."

OK now, let me get this straight, Jose. Your fellow countrymen ( 11 million +) break our laws by sneaking in across our borders in the middle of the night to, supposedly, have a chance at a better way of life. Yet it is this better way of life that you condemn when it exists in your own country. What gives?

You bitch about North American values of consumerism as being bad, if so why are so many of you over here trying to gobble it up as if there’s no tomorrow?

You say you are losing your Mexican identity based on prosperity so you should understand how we feel about losing our identity from hordes of illiterate illegals that do not speak our language, put a financial drain on our education systems, medical facilities and all municipal services and turn our neighborhoods into barrios with the God-awful murals on the side of every building in sight.

Tell you what Jose, you get your 11 million + brethren to hightail it back across the border and I’ll gladly write a letter to McDonalds asking them to change the name of their Mexican franchises to McPedros so as not to rob you of your identity. Deal?

54 posted on 03/16/2002 12:36:58 PM PST by varon
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To: Justa
Monterrey, Mexico Government building.

Hmmm, now what does this remind you of?

JMO, but the picture you posted in reply #50 resembles the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin.

55 posted on 03/16/2002 12:37:43 PM PST by Dane
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To: Cincinatus' Wife;Sabertooth
I was in Monterrey a year ago...Boy they must have done some miracles since I left.......Oh see I was there on a Mission Trip. I got to see the underbelly of the beast...14 people living in a two room cinder block house.No telephone lines..dirt streets..(and this was a "middle class" neighborhood)

See the Volkswagon cabs running along side the horse and carts on paved highways..

Monterrey is a city full of warm and wonderful people..but a model I thnk not..

On second thought it may be what the US will look like in the One World Bush Order)

56 posted on 03/16/2002 12:46:10 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: varon; All
Monterrey, Mexico: Rich, Poor Nations Discuss Poverty--[Excerpt] Anti-globalization activists are already criticizing leaders for being too focused on numbers, not the day-to-day needs of the poor.

"They are excellent economists who can increase GNP and talk about economic policies. But the figures don't reflect the reality," said Susana Cruickshank, a Mexico City activist taking part in a side meeting of non-governmental organizations. "In the competitive business model, someone always loses." [End Excerpt]

Good grief!!

57 posted on 03/16/2002 12:49:53 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: vic heller
That's how it is in Italy as well.
58 posted on 03/16/2002 12:58:34 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"I met a family who bought 20 or 30 stuffed animals because they were in fashion, but they lived in a shack".

Well,those people,as parents,need to learn more discipline.I went w/ out alot growing up (though I didn't know that then)and we were middle class-I didn't have to have the latest 'anything' but I had what I needed,and that's what mattered.Hearing the word 'No, not right now' was something I naturally accepted and coming to understand later,that it was a 'Struggle' to BE middle class (which I didn't comprehend then)has made me value,EVEN MORE,everything I've earned so far in my life.Just because things are there, doesn't mean you HAVE to HAVE them.So,I have very little sympathy for the '20 stuffed animal' comment.It was a good attempt though.

59 posted on 03/16/2002 1:06:07 PM PST by Pagey
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To: RnMomof7
I used to live in Monterrey, a million years ago, and it was a beautiful city with wide esplanades and very hospitable to Americans.

I've returned recently and now, I'd say it has modern parts, but mostly is an industrial city that is popping at the seams. It's also Mexico, which means that it has incredible poverty at the lower end of the scale.

I'm glad it's continuing to modernize, and I hope it becomes completely Americanized.

But basically, it's a dump, and I don't care if I never see it again.

60 posted on 03/16/2002 1:10:45 PM PST by Dog Gone
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