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To: Bikers4Bush
That's the terminology used when the suspect's behavior, given the information available, justifies shooting him. (Remember, a "suspect" may be innocent.) Tragic "clean shoots" include:
- kid taking a firing stance and pointing a convincing toy gun (case: kid skulking around school at night with LaserTag gun)
- a guy suddenly ("furtive movement") drawing a black object from his coat after being told to not move (case: the Diallo shooting)
and plenty others.

This case is plainly a "dirty shoot" because the boy was told to get out of the car, and simply was unbuckling his seat belt: he was following directions and made no furtive movement.

This case must not stand.

15 posted on 03/15/2002 6:54:15 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: ctdonath2
This case is plainly a "dirty shoot" because the boy was told to get out of the car

It's more like it was "GET OUT OF THE F***ING CAR", being shouted by several JBTs at the top of their lungs.

It's also very possible that another agent was shouting "DON'T F***ING MOVE" to the kid, just to (intentionally) confuse the situation for the victim.

That way, if he didn't move they could shoot him for not "getting out of the f***ing car".

19 posted on 03/15/2002 7:00:59 AM PST by Mulder
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To: ctdonath2
This case is plainly a "dirty shoot" because the boy was told to get out of the car, and simply was unbuckling his seat belt: he was following directions and made no furtive movement.

Is this a case where seat belts KILL ?

I dread the day when I get stopped. If by the time the officer comes to the door I have gotten and opened my wallet I would have had to undo my seat belt. Would I now be cited for a seat belt violation?

248 posted on 10/08/2002 9:34:39 AM PDT by George from New England
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