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To: rdb3
I think the solution to the problem of how to deport illegals is very obvious. Deportation doesn't require a criminal or even a civil trial. Immigration and the issuance of visas isn't done by the judiciary, it's under the aegis of a federal agency operating under its own set of regulations.

People here on a visa are receiving a conditionally granted privilege. That privilege isn't an inalienable human right, it is a privilege which can be withdrawn for any or for no reason. People detained for deportation who have entered the country on a visa have no right to a trial because they are not being charged with an offense which carries the penalty of loss of life, liberty or property. They are being sent home, not jailed, executed or forced to forfeit property, therefore they have no right to counsel nor to a trial.

This whole quandary which is puzzling you so is a game conjured up out of thin air by attorneys seeking a payday. One simple test case, carried to the SCOTUS could settle this once and for all. We certainly can simply deport them all, every single one of them we could catch.

People who came here without obeying the regulations can be just as easily ejected. Until an attorney can show that an illegal alien is being deprived by any level of government in this country, of life, liberty or property by being deported, none of them have any standing to demand even a trial. There is no inalienable human right o freely enter any country on earth without obeying that country's requirements for permission to stay. How anyone could ever think for one minute that there is such a right is amazing. For such a right to exist, there can be no soveriegnty of nations at all.

133 posted on 03/15/2002 8:54:19 PM PST by Twodees
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To: Twodees
We certainly can simply deport them all, every single one of them we could catch.

That's just it! You made sense, but, you didn't adequately address how we go out and find all of the illegals. That's what I'm getting at. How do we find those who are here illegaly?

134 posted on 03/15/2002 11:07:56 PM PST by rdb3
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To: Twodees
Your post raises and interesting question:

We [USA] recognize the right of people to the pursuit of life liberty and happiness [property]. It doesn't say that Americans rights are recongnized...it says the peoples right is recognized.

I suppose some crafty liberal lawyer could twist this into a right of trial...

146 posted on 03/16/2002 11:25:10 AM PST by antaresequity
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