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A Disturbing Letter from a Saudi
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | March 15, 2K2 | Saudi Citizen to David Horowitz

Posted on 03/14/2002 9:38:16 PM PST by rdb3

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To: crystalk
"But if not, we are only some 75 years away from the death of the last anglo-American. "

Judging by the rate by which each generation gets progresively worse, I am not positive the generation that is alive in 75 years will be worth killing.

141 posted on 03/16/2002 10:58:28 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Justin Raimondo
"David Horowitz has REMOVED THIS FROM HIS OWN WEBSITE, no doubt because he's been threatened with a lawsuit. Why is it still up here, leaving Jim Robinson and FR liable?"

Ummm...did the poster strike a little too close to home, for you?

142 posted on 03/16/2002 11:05:36 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Chapita
The Muslim world will feel the wrath of the United States when the next attack comes...............
and it IS coming,I have no doubt.

I don't think it will be nuclear but devastating it will be none the less,
then the gloves come off and the world will see what a bare knuckle brawler we still are.

143 posted on 03/16/2002 11:09:20 AM PST by tet68
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To: ThePythonicCow
Dark times ahead ...

Did you see the markets reaction to the explosion in Yemen yesterday...it was swift and sure to the downside...when the reports filtered in that it was "only a handgrende", the paper bulls started buying again...

144 posted on 03/16/2002 11:16:21 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: oswegodeee
Emry Riddle

Embry-Riddle

145 posted on 03/16/2002 11:18:57 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: Twodees
Your post raises and interesting question:

We [USA] recognize the right of people to the pursuit of life liberty and happiness [property]. It doesn't say that Americans rights are recongnized...it says the peoples right is recognized.

I suppose some crafty liberal lawyer could twist this into a right of trial...

146 posted on 03/16/2002 11:25:10 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: antaresequity
The point is that the protections being cited as a basis for claiming that illegals have the right to a trial before deportation is the 14th amendment. The 14th prohibits any state from depriving any person within its jurisdiction of life, liberty or property without due process of law or to deny any person therein equal protection under the law. It would appear that the lawyers would rather we didn't realize that those provisions of the 14th are aimed only at the state governments. No person who stands to be deported has life, liberty or property put at risk by the action of the US in deporting them. They may pursue happiness all they like as long as they don't violate the laws of whatever jurisdiction they may choose for their pursuit.

So, the statutes which require that an alien get a trial to determine whether or not he is to be deported is all that even puts an alien on trial where the federal government must treat his privilege of visiting as a right. Repealing the statutes completely solves the problem because the Constitution doesn't compel government to recognize the right of foreign nationals to invade the US.

147 posted on 03/16/2002 12:07:44 PM PST by Twodees
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To: Countyline
While source is of note, it does not make or break the content.

Nonsense.

If the author of this email is revealed to be a lifelong resident of Illinois, who has never been to Saudi Arabia, never been anywhere near the Middle East, and is neither Muslim nor even Arab--you gotta admit, it would blow the content to hell. It would be fiction. Agenda-driven fiction.

There's nothing in there that screams authenticity; it merely tells me what I want to hear. I could have written this myself. As far as the content itself, there's nothing startling or important or new enough to make me want to overlook the fact that it's an email that hasn't been verified. Anyway, concerning the content itself, it strikes me as the sort of piece that isn't written to change minds, rather to reinforce an existing belief (a belief which I happen to hold already, in case you hadn't guessed). So on the scale of importance, it just doesn't rate very high.

148 posted on 03/16/2002 3:30:01 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Don Myers
**************"Ummm...did the poster strike a little too close to home, for you?"*************************************************

It bothers some that Horowitz is not a faggot!

149 posted on 03/16/2002 4:15:16 PM PST by Chapita
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To: antaresequity
sorry --- typing with toes..
150 posted on 03/16/2002 4:17:49 PM PST by oswegodeee
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To: Chapita
Well, I don't even know Horowitz, so I don't understand the problem with him. But many people seem upset with him.
151 posted on 03/16/2002 4:26:21 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Twodees
As much as it may irritate civil libertarians, police have to be allowed to routinely ask for ID from people who fit an ethnic profile.

BINGO! There it is!

This is the only effective way to go about this. Now for the hard part. Who will have the political courage to inact such a policy? We already see how the RATS are acting as far as profiling Middle Easterners is concerned. An old white lady or old black man will get virually stripped searched in airport security, but an 18-40 year old Middle Eastern man will NOT get searched at all. I remember Al Sharpton on The O'Reilly Factor saying how he was against profiling of any kind. This is senseless.

There will be a deafening, uproarious ruckus made at the mere mention of doing this. But, like I said, it is the only effective way to get a handle on the illegal immigrant problem.

Politically speaking, the Bush Administration can find cover if it goes about it this way, IMHO. Check this out. Bush needn't address the nation about this. What he should do is get with state governors and have them inact such policies. Let it be the power of each State to seek out the illegal immigrants. Since there is no federal law against profiling, there would be no way for Leftists such as the ACLU coming in and filing suits. Think this is a plan?

Wow. Can you believe we just agreed on something?

152 posted on 03/16/2002 6:52:37 PM PST by rdb3
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To: Don Myers
Well, I don't even know Horowitz, so I don't understand the problem with him. But many people seem upset with him.

Some people are upset with him because he's a Jew and he's concentrating more on the source of our antagonists regarding the 9/11 attack instead of bashing Israel.

That being said I would have not posted such an anonymous/unverifiable (as far as I know) e mail like this anywhere publicly. This letter is not verified enough -- if at all -- for public consumption.

I know for supporters of Israel and Conservatives in general we have to suffer through the half truths and smears of the liberal media; unfortunately, the liberals and PLO propagandists can get away with it because of our leftwing press and we cannot. The press and in this case the anti-Semites could jump on this for letter for the sheer arbitrariness of its orgins. On the other hand, the press could claim Israel killed Muhammad Al Dura (Thinking the Unthinkable), be shown its mistake, and there will be no hue and cry about it.

This is unfair, but it's the reality Conservatives have to deal with.

Eventually, the hard edged truth will win out over the lies of the Liberals and the anti-Semites and we have to work on getting accurate bona fide information out; not putting out letters that can be so easily ridiculed.

"Be strong and of good courage."

153 posted on 03/16/2002 6:53:02 PM PST by UbIwerks
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To: UbIwerks
Some people are upset with him because he's a Jew and he's concentrating more on the source of our antagonists regarding the 9/11 attack instead of bashing Israel.

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! Could not be more true under any circumstance.

In fact, from this point on, whenever I deal with an anti-Semite/anti-Israeli on FR I'm going to use what you wrote (with your permission of course). It cannot be stated enough.

Love, peace, and Afro Sheen. ;-)


154 posted on 03/16/2002 7:06:49 PM PST by rdb3
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To: rdb3
****************"How do we find those who are here illegaly?"************************************************

What do you think of demanding a birth certificate before any welfare, food stamps, medical care, etc, be rendered as a start?

155 posted on 03/16/2002 8:50:26 PM PST by Chapita
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To: Chapita
What do you think of demanding a birth certificate before any welfare, food stamps, medical care, etc, be rendered as a start?

I thought that that was already a requirement. Guess I was wrong. At any rate, this should be necessary, so I agree with you.

156 posted on 03/16/2002 9:47:13 PM PST by rdb3
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To: Countyline
Will BUMP the latest update thread to you.

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Which I will also bump to your attention.

157 posted on 03/16/2002 10:16:08 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: RoadKing
So what have you done lately to bring the terrorists to justice? Didja have a second Big Mac to keep your strength up?
158 posted on 03/16/2002 10:50:51 PM PST by Polnick
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To: laconas
*************"You don't have to be an American citizen to get all these benefits. As a matter of fact, if you don't speak English the process works much faster because the interpreter knows the procedure and waste no time in filling the wrong forms."***************************************************************

Also my understanding!

160 posted on 03/17/2002 4:13:38 AM PST by Chapita
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