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Israel is Arming Its Civilians - Why Aren't We?
RichardPoe.com ^ | March 15, 2002 | Richard Poe

Posted on 03/14/2002 2:47:39 PM PST by Richard Poe

"HOW CAN PRIVATE CITIZENS with guns stop terrorism?"

It is a question I often hear from skeptical radio talk-show hosts – even from many who claim they support gun rights. Inundated as we are with anti-gun propaganda, many well-meaning Americans cannot imagine how guns in private hands might be useful in fighting terror.

The Israelis do not suffer from such confusion. Living with terrorism every day, they know exactly what purpose guns serve. And they are not afraid to use them. We could learn a lot from the Israeli example.

According to a March 7 report in the Washington Times, Israel has issued 60,000 new gun permits to civilians. This will raise the number of guns in the hands of Israeli civilians by at least 25 percent. In a population of roughly 6 million, there are currently 265,000 civilian-owned guns.

"There's no question that weapons in the hands of the public have prevented acts of terror or stopped them while they were in progress," stated Police Inspector-General Shlomo Aharonisky. "Chance passers-by have killed terrorists in the midst of gun attacks."

In 1984, three terrorists opened fire on a Jerusalem crowd with machine guns. Half a dozen shopkeepers and pedestrians drew weapons and returned fire.

One terrorist was shot dead by a jewelry store proprietor. The other two fled and were later captured.

"We didn’t expect to find armed civilians," one of the gunmen later admitted.

Last week, on March 5, a terrorist opened fire on a wedding party in a Tel Aviv restaurant. When his M-16 jammed, he charged the crowd with a knife. Three people were killed and 31 wounded.

Forty-six-year-old shoe salesman William Hazan was stabbed in the back. He drew a gun and shot the terrorist, wounding him. Police then arrived and finished the job.

In my last column, I noted that U.S. Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge opposes arming airline pilots. "Where do you stop?" he asked in a March 4 interview in USA Today. If we arm pilots, then railroad engineers and bus drivers will want to arm themselves too, said Ridge.

Evidently, the idea of pistol-packing bus drivers scares some of our leaders. It doesn’t scare the Israelis. "One-third of [Israel’s] 6,000 bus drivers… carry personal weapons to work," reports the Washington Times.

But what if some trigger-happy civilian accidentally kills the wrong person?

That risk has to be accepted, said a retired police officer, in the Israeli newspaper Yediot Ahronot.

Won’t looser licensing restrictions make it easier for criminals to get weapons?

"Every criminal who wants a weapon already has one," said another retired Israeli police officer in a radio interview.

End of argument. In two sentences, the most cherished dogmas of anti-gun groups such as the Brady Campaign and Gun Industry Watch have been dismissed.

The Israelis are not smarter or braver than we are. They are simply more realistic.

Those Americans who still believe they can sit out the war in front of their television sets, waiting for the government to save them, need to pay closer attention to what our government is actually doing.

In the hysteria following the 9-11 attacks, the number of federal air marshals was raised from less than 50 to about 1,000. That’s a hefty increase, but far short of the number needed to guard 35,000 flights per day.

Some pilots have already noticed a cutback in the number of on-flight air marshals, according to the March 5 Washington Post.

Phillip Beal, chairman of the Allied Pilots Association’s cockpit defense committee, cites sources in the FBI and Federal Aviation Administration who told him that they are having trouble retaining new air marshals. "It’s an incredibly boring job, waiting for something to happen," Beal explains.

The Transportation Security Administration vows it will put more marshals in the air. But Beal points out that putting one marshal on every flight would require a force the size of the U.S. Marine Corps and would cost almost $10 billion.

In short, it’s not going to happen. And even if it did, it would still leave our buses and trains unguarded.

In 1999, 774 million people made long-distance bus trips, and 337 million rode Amtrak and commuter rail lines. Who will guard these passengers? An army of federal bus and train marshals perhaps?

Not likely.

To the Israelis’ credit, anti-gun crusaders such as Rosie O’Donnell and Sarah Brady have made no impact in their country. No one cares what they say. No one listens.

It is time we Americans stopped listening too.
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Richard Poe is a New-York-Times bestselling author and cyberjournalist. His latest book is The Seven Myths of Gun Control.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; israel; secondamendment; terrorism
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1 posted on 03/14/2002 2:47:39 PM PST by Richard Poe
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To: Richard Poe
I heard that all Israeli school teachers are armed and taught defefensive firearm tactics. I tend to believe it, because I never hear of a school shooting in Israel.

Doing just the opposite has worked very well in the U.S. /sarcasm

2 posted on 03/14/2002 3:34:23 PM PST by alaskanfan
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To: Richard Poe
We are not arming because the socialists still think that they can rule the country. They well fight guns untill they are gone. Gun control is one of their last hopes.
3 posted on 03/14/2002 3:38:27 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: Richard Poe
I wonder what would have happened on 9/11 if there were some armed passengers on those airplanes. Does anyone think those dummies would have been able to carry out their plans?
4 posted on 03/14/2002 3:42:37 PM PST by Parmy
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To: alaskanfan;riverrunner; Richard Poe;Parmy
Israel is a WONDERFUL example of what concealed carry can do (about 10% of their population are armed, triple our rate in CCW states). However they are NOT a model for supporters of the 2nd amendment. I sincerely hope Israel loosens her gun laws, a summary of which you can find Firearms in Israel from the JPFO

Israel’s high incidence of concealed carry (Read the link, you get A gun, as in ONE gun, essentially if you’re a vet or a LEO). Shooting sports, for obvious reasons, are nonexistent. I’m a strong supporter of Israel, but when it comes to gun ownership, they need to learn from us. We need to be thankful for the wisdom of our founding fathers on this issue.

5 posted on 03/14/2002 3:49:20 PM PST by SJackson
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To: bang_list
bang
6 posted on 03/14/2002 3:49:45 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Just one gun? Hell that makes them sound like a bunch of socialists.

Even one a week is just not enough.

7 posted on 03/14/2002 3:55:18 PM PST by alaskanfan
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To: Parmy
Can anyone give a reason why an airline pilot cannot be armed? He probably learned his trade in the military and carried his personal weapon. Since he became a commercial pilot he has been forbidden to arm himself. Meanwhile his buddy that stayed in the service is required to carry his personal weapon and has the duty to shoot down the airliner that his commercial pilot buddy had hijacked because he had no weapon to defend the cockpit. This is another case of the idiots running the asylum in Washington, D.C.
8 posted on 03/14/2002 3:55:33 PM PST by meenie
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"We didn’t expect to find armed civilians," one of the gunmen later admitted.

This is the same sentiment echoed by every low-life thug in America - only here, they are apt to be right most of the time. Americans are sheep to the slaughter, at least most of them. The value of armed deterrence is not lost in Israel. Armed and Free or Disarmed and enslaved - you make the call.

9 posted on 03/14/2002 3:55:53 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: Richard Poe
"I noted that U.S. Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge opposes arming airline pilots. "Where do you stop?" he asked in a March 4 interview in USA Today. If we arm pilots, then railroad engineers and bus drivers will want to arm themselves too, said Ridge."

I'll bet Mr' Ridge's pilots and guards are armed.

10 posted on 03/14/2002 4:02:15 PM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: SJackson
This is crazy! Israel must be issuing serous weaponry and requiring marksmanship training in Gaza and the West Bank. For all men (male teenagers too) and then women too. Until then Jews will be sitting ducks much to the delight of the Jihadist Palestinian murderers.

Armed Jews are good Jews. Praise HaShem and pass the ammunition!

11 posted on 03/14/2002 4:04:10 PM PST by dennisw
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To: meenie
Can anyone give a reason why an airline pilot cannot be armed?

Sure, there are many "reasons", but none of them really hold up in the light of common sense - unless you're a socialist - then you don't want guns seen in a positive light in any way, shape, or form - because once that happens, all hope of completely banning and confiscating arms from the citizenry is dashed for the next hundred years. Negative PR is the only way the gun-grabbers are going to be successful. They cannot afford to ever admit that maybe an armed citizenry is a very good idea - and that the 2nd Amendment is in the Constitution because it is the BASIS for liberty.

These fools like Gov Ridge are more afraid of a gun in the hands of a good guy than they are of riding a jetliner into a building. Woe be it if the main stream press EVER publishs a pro-gun article or op-ed piece. Can you picture a front-page article in the New York Times with the headline, "Guns in the Hands of the Citizens Save Lives", or, "Founding Fathers got it Right with RKBA." No, the damn commies who run the press are only going to "get it" when they have successfully destroyed the Republic and replaced it with a mutant socialism. Man, are they in for a suprise.

12 posted on 03/14/2002 4:05:13 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: viligantcitizen
Yeah, but he is one of the elite, like Rosie Odoughnut, and deserves to be protected.
14 posted on 03/14/2002 4:09:06 PM PST by alaskanfan
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To: dennisw
Armed Jews are good Jews. Praise HaShem and pass the ammunition!

LOL. Two bumper stickers.

15 posted on 03/14/2002 4:13:48 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Israel’s high incidence of concealed carry (Read the link, you get A gun, as in ONE gun, essentially if you’re a vet or a LEO).

I thought that everyone was a vet in Israel.

16 posted on 03/14/2002 4:17:44 PM PST by mrustow
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To: Richard Poe
This is a simple solution that cost nothing.
Let every CCW holder carry his weapon anywhere anytime period, even on airlines.
If every citizen was free to practice his 2nd ammendment rights,
you could take the door off the cockpit and throw it away.
17 posted on 03/14/2002 4:22:08 PM PST by killerw
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To: Richard Poe
When you look at the election polls, half of this country would vote for the party that can't wait to beat your door down in order to melt down every gun in existance.

Out of all the people I know who have a license to carry, most of them only have the gun in the car when they're traveling around town. Out of all the 20 or so IDPA competitors that shoot with me, only about 3 carry on a regular basis, that is, the gun is on the person and not in the car. This is what I found out when I started asking who carries.

18 posted on 03/14/2002 4:30:20 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: mrustow
Why restrict gun ownership to LEOs and Vets (and yes, Israel has lot's more, IMO a problem in the US). Why can't a CITIZEN defend themselves?
19 posted on 03/14/2002 4:37:14 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Israeli women must be armed too. I think too many are still living the Oslo fantasy while Jihad is breathing down their necks.

Many women on our American frontier knew how to shoot. Not as well as the men but they still knew how.

20 posted on 03/14/2002 4:41:08 PM PST by dennisw
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