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Rant About Star Trek: Enterprise That Does Probably Not Belong Here
Reve BM, Editorial, rant | March 13, 2001 | Reve BM

Posted on 03/13/2002 3:13:17 PM PST by ReveBM

Okay, let me first off say that I am a big fan of the newest Star Trek series, Enterprise. I thought that the last series, Voyager, had gotten tired and had too many episodes revolving around the masturbatory holodeck. And, don't even get me started on the series before that, Deep Space 9, with its "angry pissed-off black man in space" theme.

The new Enterprise series has a freshness about it not seen in my opinion since the original series of 1967-69, what with the swashbuckling Captain Kirk. A good slice of the new series' appeal for me is its handsome, rugged, all-American Captain, Jonathan Archer.

One particular episode, though, rubbed me the wrong way. If you've watched the series you may remember the pivotal episode where they visit the "Great Plume of Agasoria", a stellar object that has religious significance for many alien peoples. Smack in the middle of this episode, the alien doctor pointedly asks Captain Archer whether he has a faith (I don't remember the exact wording, he may have used religion or some other wording).

Captain Archer's response: "I try to keep an open mind".

Let's step back a bit and realize that in the Star Trek universe at this point Earth is just emerging from a hard 100+ years of recovering from nuclear war. If there were ever a time for people to turn to God, perhaps it would have been in the aftermath of that holocaust. However, not so for the boys at Star Fleet.

Perhaps in the Star Trek future, people who are religious do not go into space, staying on their farms (as shown in the first episode of the series) or perhaps forming small communities on spacefaring cargo ships (as shown in another episode). However, religious people don't seem to go into Star Fleet, to my knowledge. It's fine and understandable to run across aliens who are committed religiously, particularly the Vulcans, but I have yet in my memory to run across a significant Star Trek character who is committed to Christianity. You might think I'm harping on Christianity in particular, but it's not only a major and still-growing religion in our world today, but it's the dominant religion in the United States, which fields a large portion of visible Star Fleet personnel, perhaps due to the San Francisco location of its training center (or perhaps many other people in the world died during nuclear war)?

Wait, I get it, maybe religious people are somehow screened out during Star Fleet Academy, perhaps for unacceptable views they might have on one or another topic.

Let's also not forget that in the future, at least according to Star Trek, there is no capitalism at some point. The description of how this happens and in what century is vague, but I vividly remember more than one Star Trek Captain saying that in the future they don't use money anymore, just look to expand their "human potential". Thank God for the Ferengi.

Star Trek is written by writers and reflects their view of what the future will be like. They obviously seem to assume that Christianity and capitalism will die out over the generations. This reflects the fondness of liberals in particular to enter our schools and inculcate our young people so that they don't have unacceptable, politically incorrect views among the future generations, whether regarding homosexuality or some other topic.

It would have been extremely refreshing to have had Captain Archer at LEAST say "Yes, I have a faith, but it's very personal to me" and leave it at that.

Whether Christianity could survive the discovery of intelligent life on other planets is a topic for another day. I have read some science fiction suggesting it could. Others may disagree.

Have a nice day!


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KEYWORDS: atheist; starfleetmafia
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To: BlueLancer
Mornin' to you too, Blue. :D
161 posted on 05/07/2004 8:14:16 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: egarvue
Some of the TNG movies were good - First Contact and Nemesis. And that series was trying to find some ground.

DS9 was okay, and Voyager had some commendable aspects to it as well. I've liked what I have seen from Enterprise as well.

The only thing that's a real bummer was killing off Data. BAD MOVE, Berman. VERY BAD MOVE.
162 posted on 05/07/2004 8:20:20 AM PDT by hchutch (Tommy Thompson's ephedra ban STINKS.)
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To: Hawkeye's Girl
Is that the one where the 20th Century Roman government is trying to oppress a sun cult which turns out to be the "Son" cult?
163 posted on 05/07/2004 8:32:34 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: ikanakattara
IIRC, the mini-series V was pro-Christian.

Of course War of the Worlds (the movie) was as pro-Christian as War of the Worlds (the book) was anti.

164 posted on 05/07/2004 8:35:50 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: lentulusgracchus
>>>And in another episode, a whole world has gone Gangsterland, reproducing 20's Chicago right down to the Thompson choppers and Packard getaway cars.

You speak of the episode called, "A Piece of the Action". It was one of many of the TOS episodes that worked within a very tight budget. The use of old Hollywood street sets was employed to save ca$h. It turned out to be a very enjoyable and funny ST.

Haven't been watching "Enetprise" lately. It doesn't hold up to the standards set by Gene Roddenbury in TOS, STNG or DS9. I think TPTB should have created a show that went into the future, instead of going back in time. Next time around, if there is a "next time", hopefully they'll do a better job.

165 posted on 05/07/2004 8:35:57 AM PDT by Reagan Man (The choice is clear. Reelect BUSH-CHENEY !)
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To: Tribune7
Yup. And when Kirk and Co. discover that at the end of the episode, they're happy that the Word is getting out.
166 posted on 05/07/2004 9:25:49 AM PDT by Hawkeye's Girl
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To: Hawkeye's Girl
And when Kirk and Co. discover that at the end of the episode, they're happy that the Word is getting out.

Yup. There's also the one where Kirk tells the Greek psuedo-god that they only worship one God.

167 posted on 05/07/2004 10:24:41 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
What was pro-Christian in V. I remember the mini-series, but can't think of anything pro-Christian.
168 posted on 05/07/2004 10:56:04 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Tribune7
That's one of my all-time favorite Star Trek's.
169 posted on 05/07/2004 10:57:08 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: lentulusgracchus
But the best episode of them all, bar none (IMHO) is from TNG: it's the time-loop conundrum, in which Kelsey Grammer guests in a cameo.

The Best of Both Worlds: Parts 1 & 2 were the best episodes ever to come from Star Trek. ;^)

170 posted on 05/07/2004 11:07:26 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Wolfgang Puck does not belong on Iron Chef America, no matter how funny his accent is.)
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To: luckystarmom
IIRC, there was a minister who was on the side of the resistance who had a meeting with the evil queen alien and almost talked her into accepting Christianity.
171 posted on 05/07/2004 11:22:15 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Centurion2000
Labor would still be expensive .... this could be a post on it's own. How replicator based economies would work.

Yes!!! Another thread!!

172 posted on 05/07/2004 1:50:54 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: lentulusgracchus
"Roddenberry wasn't shy about promoting good old-fashioned "Americanism"; one episode in the original series features a planet where people have somehow come into possession of a U.S. flag and a copy of the Constitution, courtesy of an errant space probe"

That was the writer's doing. Majel Barrett in an interview later described that episode as one of the more ridiculous ones in her view, and was agast at Kirk almost saluting the American flag at the end of that episode.
173 posted on 05/07/2004 2:20:20 PM PDT by Jason Kauppinen
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
The Best of Both Worlds: Parts 1 & 2

Which episodes were those?

174 posted on 05/08/2004 1:49:40 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: Jason Kauppinen
Majel Barrett in an interview later described that episode as one of the more ridiculous ones in her view....

Hmm, maybe Computer Lady is the real Lefty in the Roddenberry shop?

175 posted on 05/08/2004 1:53:43 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: lentulusgracchus
The one's where the Borg invade the Federation, then capture and assimilate Picard.
176 posted on 05/08/2004 6:23:19 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Wolfgang Puck does not belong on Iron Chef America, no matter how funny his accent is.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I'm not ready for inter-planetary, inter-species miscegenation.

Spock is half-human and half-vulcan.

177 posted on 05/10/2004 7:36:47 AM PDT by Cooter
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