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1 posted on 03/13/2002 10:18:46 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: sabertooth
ping.
2 posted on 03/13/2002 10:24:59 AM PST by glock rocks
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To: Uncle Bill
"There will be no blanket amnesty for illegals. I've said that point blank. I will say it as many times as I need to say it."

Is this his version of "READ MY LIPS NO NEW TAXES " ?
3 posted on 03/13/2002 10:25:57 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Uncle Bill
Rush said earler that the bill passed yesterday wasn't amnesty and it was a visa extension because the INS is too inept to process the paperwork on time?
4 posted on 03/13/2002 10:26:05 AM PST by america-rules
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To: sarcasm; Sabertooth; OKCSubmariner; Fred Mertz; Joe Hadenuf

5 posted on 03/13/2002 10:26:54 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
Thank God. I don't mind some sort of work exchange program, but blanket amnesty is just rewarding law breakers. Becoming an American has to have some meaning and cheapening the process cheapens what it means to be American. I have many friends who immigrated here legally and go through all the pains of becoming American; such as dealing with lawyers, paying the damned fees, doing the mountains of paperwork, and working their duffs off. Its bunk that people would just step in front of line.
6 posted on 03/13/2002 10:27:20 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Uncle Bill
I guess the Repub establishment is responding to our e-mails.

No blanket amnesty. Oh, I see.

Asked about his pending decision, Bush told reporters he was consulting with Mexican officials on a worker program ``that will legalize the hard work that's taking place now in America.''

Oh, the "hard" work. Goodbye middle class construction workers, truckers, etc. You were just another blip in history.

9 posted on 03/13/2002 10:30:27 AM PST by Shermy
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I guess the Repub establishment is responding to our e-mails.

No blanket amnesty. Oh, I see.

Asked about his pending decision, Bush told reporters he was consulting with Mexican officials on a worker program ``that will legalize the hard work that's taking place now in America.''

Oh, the "hard" work. Goodbye middle class construction workers, truckers, etc. You were just another blip in history.

11 posted on 03/13/2002 10:30:37 AM PST by Shermy
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To: Uncle Bill
"So long as there's somebody who wants to hire somebody and somebody willing to work, it seems like to me it's in our nation's interests to make sure the two go together," he said

I believe that the unemployment rate measures the percentage of natives willing to work. At last count it was over 5%, meaning that around 6,000,000 of our own were actively looking for work. Let's give work to our fellow Americans. It's good for America and, above all, it's good for the environment AND the children.

12 posted on 03/13/2002 10:30:42 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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George W. Bush:

"There will be no blanket amnesty for illegals. I've said that point blank. I will say it as many times as I need to say it."

Depends on what the definition of "blanket" is.

Clinton Redux.



13,000,000 - 1 = "no blanket amnesty."

13 posted on 03/13/2002 10:30:56 AM PST by Sabertooth
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Response from Illegal Immigrants: "We don't need no stinkin' amnesty!"
15 posted on 03/13/2002 10:32:01 AM PST by mattdono
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To: Uncle Bill
Bump for an excellent article by Feder.
16 posted on 03/13/2002 10:32:47 AM PST by jimt
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To: Uncle Bill
retro-active?
17 posted on 03/13/2002 10:33:00 AM PST by AMERIKA
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To: Uncle Bill
No new taxes either.
22 posted on 03/13/2002 10:36:12 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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Secretary of State Colin Powell and Attorney General John Ashcroft have recommended to Bush that he grant guest-worker status and - eventually - legal residency to some of the 3 million Mexicans who are in this country illegally.

I'm all for that right after they are forced to leave the country and re-enter it legally. No visa = no guest worker. Otherwise, it's just semantics and hair splitting.....+

23 posted on 03/13/2002 10:36:40 AM PST by otterpond
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To: Uncle Bill
Hey, where is the GWB Cheerleading Squad today???
26 posted on 03/13/2002 10:41:25 AM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: Uncle Bill; Victoria Delsoul; Pelham; Travis McGee; Joe Hadenuf; sarcasm; harpseal; RonDog...
Bush Administration Motto:


The Rule of Law:
We Pretend Louder





27 posted on 03/13/2002 10:42:04 AM PST by Sabertooth
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Remarks By The President To The Hispanic Chamber Of Commerce

"I want to talk about another subject that's incredibly important for not only the border states, but all of America. And that's relations with our neighbors to the south, Mexico.

Mexico is a friend of America. Mexico is our neighbor. And we want our neighbors to succeed. We want our neighbors to do well. We want our neighbors to be successful. We understand that a poor neighbor is somebody that's going to be harder to deal with than a neighbor that's prospering. And that's why it's so important for us to tear down barriers and walls that might separate Mexico from the United States. And that's why it's so important for us to stand strong when it comes to free trade with our neighbors to the south.

NAFTA has been good for New Mexico, and it's been good for Mexico. And that's an important relationship that I pledge to continue on. I ask -- I ask for the Congress -- I ask for the Congress to give me trade promotion authority, so that we can not only have free trade with our neighbor to the south, so that we can have free trade throughout the hemisphere.

Oh, I know there's some voices who want to wall us off from Mexico. They want to build a wall. I say to them, they want to condemn our neighbors to the south in poverty, and I refuse to accept that type of isolationist and protectionist attitude. (Applause.)

And let me say one other thing, one other issue that's important. It speaks to the spirit of our nation. It speaks to whether or not we're going to be true friends with the neighbors to the south. And that's the issue of trucking. There are some people who say we shouldn't allow our friends to the south to send their trucks into the United States. I say that's discrimination against Mexico."

28 posted on 03/13/2002 10:45:20 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Uncle Bill
Okay, in seeing these posts I think it is time for a little education on the matter. This is not meant as an endorsement either way in this matter, but merely an attempt to clarify the confusion over the term “amnesty” as used by different parties.

When Bush says he is not in favor of “amnesty” it does not mean he is not in favor of the current bill that passed the House that has been referred to as “amnesty”. “Amnesty” in immigration laws refers to a blanket granting of immigration status to those who have no basis for an immigration status. When Bush says he is against “amnesty”, this is what he refers to. Bush is in favor of the recently passed bill that has been called an “amnesty” but is actually a temporary extension of INA s.245(i). When someone has a legal basis for obtaining their residence (through employment or family relation) and a visa is available to them, they either adjust status under s. 245 or process at the consulate. If they ever had any kind of status violation, including having their visa lapse while the INS took forever in processing their paperwork, then they could not adjust and had to process at the consulate. 245(i) was on the books for many years without complaint of it being an “amnesty” but was permitted to lapse. 245(i) permitted someone who had a legal basis for immigration, but could not adjust status because of a status violation, to adjust anyway by paying a penalty and avoid having to go through the consulate. The lapsing of 245(i) would have just meant that these people would have had to process at the consulate back in their home country. However, they still had a legal basis for immigrating to the US. It was the lapsing of 245(i) together with the 1996 law changes on excludability that have created the problems. Under the excludability rules, a person who was out of status for 6 months could be excluded for 3 years. A person who was out of status for 1 year could be excluded for 10 years. Because of this, you have people who qualify for their residency but are unable to adjust status and if they processed at the consulate could be excluded for 3-10 years. The temporary extension of 245(i) allows these people who would otherwise qualify for their residency to legalize their status.

Yes, it is a matter of semantics. But this is why Bush will both state he is against “amnesty” yet be in favor of what the press is reporting as an “amnesty”. Personally, I think the estension of 245(i) is not an “amnesty” as has previously been granted since no new legal category is being created and those benefiting by this law change must have an already existing legal basis for being granted residency. 245(i) is vastly different from what Luis Gutierrez has proposed which truly can be considered an “amnesty”.

34 posted on 03/13/2002 10:52:07 AM PST by Armando Guerra
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To: Uncle Bill
Good find. Bump to the White House.
35 posted on 03/13/2002 10:52:46 AM PST by stevio
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To: Uncle Bill
At the time of his approach to Red China, Richard Nixon (a REPUBLICAN for those of you from Rio Linda) was approached by an internationalist businessman who was literally salivating over the prospect of access to the BILLIONS of potential Chinese slave laborers and “customers” (although this rocket scientist had apparently not yet concluded that the Chinese people would be hard pressed to buy his stuff without MONEY!!!!).

This businessman was concerned that Nixon had been SAYING that he was cooling to the idea of an opening to Red China to quell the uprising within the then very much more America-First rank and file Republican Party.

As reported years later, Nixon told the businessman
“DON’T LISTEN TO WHAT WE SAY: WATCH WHAT WE DO!"

It is my strong memory of THAT event which prompts me to post this graphic!

AS YOU READ THIS, IT APPEARS THAT BUSH, DASCHLE AND OTHERS ARE WELL DOWN THE ROAD TO USING THIS PAGE FROM THE NIXON PLAYBOOK!

Look, America – the IDEA not the PLACE – can only continue to exist if we heed the advice of the founding fathers (paraphrased here in the current vernacular for residents of Rio Linda), to wit:
“The Founding Fathers have determined that failure to WATCH politicians – ALL POLITICIANS (even those you may worship!) – is dangerous to the security of this nation and to the freedoms we paid such a heavy price to TRY to leave you and your children.”

“Government is not reason. Government is not eloquence. It is FORCE. And, like fire, it is a DANGEROUS SERVANT AND A FEARSOME MASTER.”
That from that notorious tinfoil hat wearing, radical wing-nut, George Washington.


36 posted on 03/13/2002 10:55:04 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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