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Immigration Amnesty Passes House
Fox News ^ | 03/13/02

Posted on 03/13/2002 3:24:46 AM PST by Enemy Of The State

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:32:49 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt said he would support the bill with the border security provisions.

WASHINGTON

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To: angkor
Finally, I've been researching these issues for more than 5 years, and understand them to a depth that you will never possibly fathom from reading newspaper articles and listening to fatuous pols.

Oh really now...so then you SURELY must realize that the $1000 is a fine for breaking the immigration law? Apparently we have some reading impaired posters, so I will post the info again...

From the INS website:

Section 245(i) is not amnesty

What is it?

Our immigration laws allow qualified individuals to enter the United States as lawful permanent residents ("green card" holders) when they first obtain immigrant visas from a consulate or embassy outside the United States or, for many immigrants already lawfully in the United States, through a process called "adjustment of status." If you entered the United States unlawfully, or if you entered with permission but did not stay in lawful status, you normally would have to leave the United States in order to apply for an immigrant visa. Special rules under Section 245(i) may allow you to apply to adjust status without leaving the United States.

If I entered without permission or I did not stay in lawful status, how can I adjust my immigration status without leaving the U.S.?

IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO ADJUST YOUR STATUS, THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS MUST BE SUBMITTED EARLY ENOUGH SO THAT THEY ARE RECEIVED ON OR BEFORE APRIL 30, 2001:

INS Form I-130 must be submitted by a close relative who agrees to sponsor you. Your relative must be a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident. If the filing date of the I-130 is after January 14, 1998, then you will need to show that you were in the United States on December 21, 2000, when you file later for adjustment of status.

United States citizens may sponsor their parents, spouse, children (regardless of age or marital status), and siblings

Lawful permanent residents may only sponsor their spouses and their unmarried children.

No one can sponsor uncles, cousins, nieces and nephews, brothers- and sisters-in-law, or grandparents.

OR

Department of Labor Form ETA-750 and/or INS Form I-140 should be filed if your employer agrees to sponsor you. Your employer should check with the local Employment Services Office to see which form(s) are required. In some cases, you may be able to file the forms yourself. If the filing date of the form(s) is after January 14, 1998, then you will need to show that you were in the United States on December 21, 2000.

OR

INS Form I-360 may be filed, if you are a member of a special group such as an Amerasian, the widow(er) of a United States citizen, a battered spouse, or you may file a Form I-526 if you are an alien investor.

When a visa is immediately available, you should file the Adjustment of Status Forms I-485 and I-485A, with the correct fees and a $1,000 penalty. Unless you are the parent, spouse or unmarried child under 21 of a United States citizen, you must wait until an immigrant visa number is available to you before filing for adjustment of status. There is no deadline for this application. This information about adjustment of status is based on the Immigration and Nationality Act, as changed by the Legal Immigration Family Equity Act (LIFE) and LIFE Act Amendments. Detailed information on Section 245(i) will be included in the regulations to be published.

You might be eligible to adjust your status under a different part of Section 245, without paying the penalty and without regard to the filing deadlines, if you are someone who entered with permission but who has been out of status for 180 days or less, or if your sponsor is your spouse, parent, or child and a United States citizen. More information on application filing procedures and updates on LIFE and other immigration benefits can be found on the INS website, www.ins.usdoj.gov, or on the INS Help Line at 1-800-375-5283, as it becomes available.

INS

Are people who exceed the speed limit that pay their fines for breaking the law still criminals in your eyes? Does it encourage others to speed? Get real. Another premise to support this bill is that we need to get these workers documented so we know where they are and who they are.

301 posted on 03/13/2002 1:11:24 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Poohbah
End welfare. Enforce hiring documentation requirements. Those two items together will end illegal immigration without requiring more federally-employed bodies.

As usual you promote half-way measures and ideas that are politically impossible but are against ANY stringent actions to counter illegal immigration. That's not my problem--it’s yours. You have problems with using our military to stop a BORDER INVASION??? I thought that's what our military was there for!

And your wish to end welfare for illegals is laughable on its face. The exponentially growing continent of illegal aliens in this country that are finding their way to the ballot box make any welfare reform virtually impossible. Just look at what is going on in CA, TX and AZ. You can shout all you want about ending subsidies for illegal aliens but only the most deluded would think that this is even remotely possible as long as our government does NOTHING to roll back illegal immigration in this country.

302 posted on 03/13/2002 1:31:44 PM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine
You have problems with using our military to stop a BORDER INVASION??? I thought that's what our military was there for!

If this is a war, then treat it like one, not like a rerun of Vietnam (which, in case this eluded your notice, WE LOST using the exact same tactics you want to implement).

If it's not a war, then use duly sworn law enforcement officers to enforce the law.

But you don't have the testicular fortitude to admit what you REALLY want, so I don't expect any solutions from you.

304 posted on 03/13/2002 1:38:17 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
The Mexicans did. The "MEXICAN INVASION" didn't start until the liberals, pushed on by the AFL-CIO, closed down the bracero program that allowed Mexican nationals to legally enter the country and work on a seasonal basis.

And you want to know the difference between the Mexicans who did "some of this work" years ago and the Mexicans that do it today? Yes, the vast majority of them were LEGAL immigrants who had a respect for the laws of this country. Something seriously lacking in the invaders of today.

305 posted on 03/13/2002 1:41:16 PM PST by WRhine
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To: MissAmericanPie
Well. You have me there. :)

My dad said he's mailing back the RNC membership survey in the postage paid envelope (minus donation) and is putting "Stop rewarding illegal immigrants" as the answer to D) In general, what do you think should be the top priority for the Republican National Committee in 2002?

306 posted on 03/13/2002 1:46:40 PM PST by Helix
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To: WRhine
Yes, the vast majority of them were LEGAL immigrants who had a respect for the laws of this country.

Actually, they weren't immigrants--they had no intention of staying. They were here legally. Then they were given the choice of (a) obeying the law and starving or (b) entering illegally to do the same work they'd done before.

Something seriously lacking in the invaders of today.

As opposed to the reverent awe with which Freepers hold the law when they dislike the content thereof, and law enforcement officers when said LEOs act in ways Freepers find personally distasteful.

307 posted on 03/13/2002 1:53:16 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
The Mexicans did. The "MEXICAN INVASION" didn't start until the liberals, pushed on by the AFL-CIO, closed down the bracero program that allowed Mexican nationals to legally enter the country and work on a seasonal basis.

Why do you offer excuses for our illegal immigration crisis? I believe in your twisted reasoning you indirectly answered the difference between Mexican immigrants who did "some of our manual labor" years ago and the Mexicans that do it today. Yes, the vast majority of them back then were LEGAL immigrants who had a respect for the laws of this country. Something seriously lacking in the invaders of today.

308 posted on 03/13/2002 1:53:19 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Poohbah
As opposed to the reverent awe with which Freepers hold the law when they dislike the content thereof, and law enforcement officers when said LEOs act in ways Freepers find personally distasteful.

Oh I see. Everybody breaks the Law! Where have I heard this type of spin before???

309 posted on 03/13/2002 2:00:21 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Magnum44
It is those 'contributors' that the amnesty provision here is trying to capture. Not the bad element.

Again it not the character of the immigrant or his legal status that is at the center of this outrage. It is the message that this self serving arrangement presents and the sheer numbers involved.

If this section of the bill applied to 1000 people AND immigration to date had been implemented in the same fashion as had been the case prior to 1945 there would be no issue.

This is an issue involving the inundation of local societies through unregulated, unfettered, mass, illegal immigration being facilitated by politicians with selfserving, short term goals.

312 posted on 03/13/2002 3:14:27 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Enemy Of The State
Why not grant amnesty to all the convicted felons in all the prisons,THEN TURN THEM ALL LOOSE!
313 posted on 03/13/2002 3:15:09 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Catspaw
You're hopeless. Go have lunch with Dane.
315 posted on 03/13/2002 3:22:43 PM PST by dougherty
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To: PRS
Great picture. I can't wait until Jorge makes his trip down south of the border (silly me, what border?) to visit his bedfellow, Vincente. I'm sure he'll give you plenty of new material.
316 posted on 03/13/2002 3:27:38 PM PST by dougherty
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To: Poohbah
The thought police have arrived.
317 posted on 03/13/2002 3:39:27 PM PST by dougherty
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To: East Bay Patriot
Right on brother, thats exactly how I feel. I'm officially renouncing my membership in the Republican party, and I'm writing them a hand written letter telling them why. Screw the Republicans, they dont want to do anything about the Mexican Invasion
318 posted on 03/13/2002 4:20:17 PM PST by cutlass
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To: dougherty
After losing the hispanic vote 2:1, Open-Borders Jorge sees this as a way to pump his numbers with current Hispanic voters just enough to get term 2 - and to hell with future GOP candidates who'll face insurmountable demographic odds as a consequence of this crap.
319 posted on 03/13/2002 4:28:55 PM PST by RodgerD
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