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After The (CBS) Documentary
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Posted on 03/11/2002 5:53:56 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
Thank you for posting. I am haunted by the images.
To: jurisdog
They did show stills of the Chaplain's body being carried out. Sorry it wasn't mangled enough for you, what the hell did you want, a snuff film?
Sicko
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posted on
03/11/2002 6:35:56 AM PST
by
KJMorgan
To: All
I tried watching it all. I really did. Kids were in bed for the night so it was just me. (Husband is on a fast attack sub, nearing the end of a 6 month deployment)
But hearing the bodies hit, plus watching the second tower fall...couldn't do it. Started bawling and had to turn it off.
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posted on
03/11/2002 6:36:24 AM PST
by
Severa
To: veronica
Thank you for posting. I am haunted by the images.
To: Mfkmmof4
Yes and the war is not about Enron, K-Mart, or oil Let's put it this way .. if we don't fight and win this evil war .. there will be no Enron, K-Mart or oil to worry about
I am still amazed that the Committee's on Enron have been packed and yet when I see a Committe on Our National Security .. barely a Senator or Congressman/women can be found .. AMAZING!!!
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posted on
03/11/2002 6:37:57 AM PST
by
Mo1
To: Mo1
I understand your point but with the crashing sounds that was heard as the bodies fell .. I don't think pictures were needed And the one firefighters comment, to the effect that he (paraphrasing) "couldn't imagine how bad it was, if the best available option was to JUMP". Precisely what millions of others watching were thinking. How do you even begin to comprehend that decision.
The reaction of those guys in the lobby when they heard the impacts, showed me all I needed to see.
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posted on
03/11/2002 6:43:09 AM PST
by
xsrdx
To: veronica
For the next part of this, the light beams shot up into the sky from lower Manhattan will be fantastic. I have been watching them test the lights all week from my Upper West Side apartment and I think it will be very impressive to all. It looks hauntingly beautiful and I think even though this is planned for only a month, there will be outcry for it to continue permanently.
To: veronica
Well made, extraordainary footage, glad I watched it.
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posted on
03/11/2002 6:46:19 AM PST
by
blackbag
To: ppaul
POWERFUL FOOTAGE ALL.
To: veronica
Certainly some of the most powerful and moving footage I've ever seen. No desire to ever watch it again, but it is beyond incredible that so much of the event was caught on film.
The battalion fire chief, on film, hearing the first plane overhead, and WATCHING IT fly into the first tower.
The same guy, and the look on his face in the lobby of Tower 1 as he heard Tower 2 collapse.
NYFD firemen, tough, steely eyed and in full battle gear, ready for ANYTHING, looking stunned and yet full of resolve.
Absolutely amazing, Pulitzer Prize to the Nth material.
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posted on
03/11/2002 6:53:41 AM PST
by
xsrdx
To: carton253
Hearing the jumpers land and watching the firemen jump everytime a jumper landed was more powerful than actually seeing the corpses.
I tend to agree with this. I can't get that exploding "thud" of bodies hitting out of my head and found that, along with the unified "jump" of the firemen everytime it happened was very upsetting.
I am glad that they had that on the video however, because we do tend to be a 30-minute-sitcom society and this is time when I think we need salt rubbed into our collective wound so that we stay angry, resolute, and back the President. It will be harder for the Lefties to spin the war with the sounds of those horrible, hollow "thuds" still resonating in America's mind.
To: finnman69
Do you know what time they will be doing that and what channel. I want to add it to the documentary on my vhs tape.
To: KJMorgan
They did show stills of the Chaplain's body being carried out. Sorry it wasn't mangled enough for you, what the hell did you want, a snuff film? Sicko That's a pretty extreme response. I think the poster wanted Americans to stay angry. You may disagree with his desired means, but we must stay determined.
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posted on
03/11/2002 6:59:15 AM PST
by
arm958
To: Dog Gone
"...but we couldn't even see a single victim during the entire film." That wasn't an editorial decision, that was the sensitivity of the filmmaker. He opten not to film falling and burning bodies. In his words, "Nobody should see this." I think he captured the events with professionalism rarely seen in TV documentaries these days. Ths sound of the bodies hitting the pavement and the looks on the firefighter's faces was enough for me.
To: jurisdog
I'm a little sickened by the arrogance of the media. Somehow, they think they are capable of watching scenes of violence and death, but that they need to 'edit' out that stuff for the average joe. Off the subject but just as outrageous, our local paper The News Herald (Willoughby,Ohio) has ENOUGH IS ENOUGH above the story of the six month anniversary of 9/11.
The paper has decided on it's own not to include any pictures of that day because in their opinion, we've had enough.'
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posted on
03/11/2002 7:01:50 AM PST
by
estrogen
To: Piquaboy
Even if the communist wing of the government did watch the documentary as you hope, they only did it in order to hone their anti-American anti-President Bush message of hate. We have two major enemies, those without who are the islamoterrorists, and those within, the democrats who are their fellow travelers. People like the Grand Klegal of the Dumb Klux Klan, senator dufus dasshole, Hitlery, and little dick gephardt are nothing but marxist pragmatists who hate our country, our military, and our sacred constitution.
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posted on
03/11/2002 7:05:33 AM PST
by
RushLake
I have to give CBS its due.They did good. It was a hard show to watch. Peace and God Bless to the victims of this cruel attack .May God protect and guide our leaders and countrymen and women in our hour of need.
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posted on
03/11/2002 7:06:43 AM PST
by
linn37
To: Mo1
I think we all knew what was going on and if some didn't .. then they are pretty dang stupid and don't get it .. Sorry that you feel that way.
There is a lot more going on here than simple how we are "feeling".
I am the world's biggest wimp, and avoid the sight of blood at all costs, including my own, but.
I know that there are instances when I would force myself, no question, not only to look but to act. There is not much point in dwelling on what those might be, suffice to sat that the thought itself is painful.
We have been chosen by fate to live this event; it is extraordinary and a defining moment for the character of any nation, and I see it as one of those events that all of us would rather not experience.
I would view the unedited tape. I would force myself to. If for no other reason than to defy those weak of spirit as well as heart who would rather avoid, evade and forget, and mouth inanities like "lowering ourselves to their level".
I can never forget Winston Churchill's words:
No nation has ever been saved from extinction by 'good men'.
To: estrogen
The paper has decided on it's own not to include any pictures of that day because in their opinion, we've had enough.' Gee maybe we should write to this paper and ask them .. Just how many dead American's will be enough for them
My Parents Generation said never forget Pearl Habor
My generation will say never forget 9/11
I don't want my childrens generation to say never forget _____
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posted on
03/11/2002 7:07:14 AM PST
by
Mo1
To: jurisdog
"I'm a little sickened by the arrogance of the media. Somehow, they think they are capable of watching scenes of violence and death, but that they need to 'edit' out that stuff for the average joe." Sorry your vision of a blood and guts propaganda piece was dampened. The filmmaker didn't film burning or pulverized bodies out of respect for the dead and dying. He was there, recording events, period. I wasn't there, you weren't there... he was. And from the looks of the video, he was filming with the awe and compassion and bravery of the firefighters whom he accompanied. I wouldn't be so arrogant to judge him as a media shill or propagandist.
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