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After The (CBS) Documentary
Andrew Sullivan.com ^ | 3/11/02 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 03/11/2002 5:53:56 AM PST by veronica

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To: carton253
If 9/11 did not changed their thinking, showing bodies smashing on the ground will not either

You may be right .. But I also can't help but think of a story I read once of how after W.W.II .. Many German people did not believe the stories of Jews being killed .. That is until these people were brought to the Concentration Camps to see for their own eyes. Many were horrified at what they saw and were sickened

So that is why I made the comment I did

But I agree if that doesn't get them to understand .. nothing will and God help them

101 posted on 03/11/2002 12:53:32 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Mo1
Didn't Eisenhower/Patton ( I can't remember who) make the troops go through the concentration camps at the end of the war so that there would be first-hand accounts?
102 posted on 03/11/2002 12:59:11 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: Mo1
Didn't Eisenhower/Patton ( I can't remember who) make the troops go through the concentration camps at the end of the war so that there would be first-hand accounts?
103 posted on 03/11/2002 12:59:12 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: Mo1
Didn't Eisenhower/Patton ( I can't remember who) make the troops go through the concentration camps at the end of the war so that there would be first-hand accounts?
104 posted on 03/11/2002 12:59:33 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: Aggie Mama
To be honest I can't remember .. but I have seen many films/stories/documentaries on The History Channel with regard to what happen to the Jewish People during this time in history

Oh heck I learned more from The History Channel then I ever learned from the Philadelphia Public School System

105 posted on 03/11/2002 1:04:16 PM PST by Mo1
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To: jurisdog
For some reason, I don't trust their motives. Honestly, after watching that video last night, I was thinking that without seeing even one single body, not to mention the hundreds of bodies and body parts they apparently edited out, it was tough to really truly appreciate the death associated with this horrible attack.

I think you need to relax... while I agree the true horror of that day needs to be seen, not just heard and described, I don't feel for one moment the reality of what happened on 9/11 was lost by the film maker conciously not turning his camera right to show 2 people on fire, or to focus on the body parts.

This documentary at its heart was about the firefighters of that particular fire house... it was a story of humanity in the face of unbelievable evil. It was told by and shot from the perspective of the firefighters. I think it was done very well. I was not crazy about the occassional and pointless narration, the work stood for itself, you didn't need Deniro voicing over every 15 or 20 minutes for 1 or 2 sentences.. it was out of place and added nothing. The cameraman and the firefighters told the story.. I don't know why they had him narrating most of the time.

I don't think we need to see the body in the street to know what happened, the sickening thud and the words of the firefighters themselves at the recognition of what it was made the point plainly. You didn't need to see the macabre of body parts, the words of 1 firefighter, ("this was 2 110 story office buildings, and in the rubble there isn't a desk, there isn't a chair, there isn't a phone.. the biggest piece of a phone I found was a part of a keypad about this big" (paraphrased) left little to the imagination, as did anothers "it was raining body parts"...

I do agree the photo evidence of this even needs to get out, as macabe and sickening as it is, but this documentary was not the place for it. It would not have added one iota to the impact of what was going on.

106 posted on 03/11/2002 1:16:46 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: LoveUSA
I couldn't take my eyes off The Towers whenever they came into view,

Anytime I see an movie and the WTC comes into scene, I find myself transfixed to the point where I can't pay attention to anything else going on in that particular scene.

I was channel-surfing the other night and I came across the closing credits to some old Barbra Streisand film from the 1970s. As the credits rolled, lower Manhattan was filmed from a helicopter and the Towers were standing prominently throughout the scene. I found myself watching the credits in their entirety just to stare at the WTC.

107 posted on 03/11/2002 1:18:11 PM PST by Drew68
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To: all
On a related note, MSNBC had a story this morning about hawkers selling photos of the jumpers --after they hit the ground, to tourists and collecters. They actually showed a vendor with a collection of 8 1/2" X 11" photos showing them to people.

Unbelievable.

I'm sure they'll wind up on the internet in due time.

108 posted on 03/11/2002 1:33:49 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Kalashnikov_68
I went to NYU, and when the Yankees won the World Series in 96 I videotaped the parade for my mom in St. Louis. Afterward I went to the WTC and taped the whole area. It is eerie to watch that footage now.
109 posted on 03/11/2002 1:34:15 PM PST by Jadge
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To: Publius6961
You seem to love to hear yourself talk (or write), but I hope that the rest of yout thoughts were not based on this gem...

I hope your words are not directed at me because those words I posted aren't mine, nor do I agree with them.

110 posted on 03/11/2002 1:58:05 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: PrivateIdaho
Everytime you heard what I thought sounded like a metal sound that was it...the bodies were hitting the glass atrium. A lot was edited out though.
111 posted on 03/11/2002 2:15:51 PM PST by Mfkmmof4
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To: Mfkmmof4
Total Reality BUMP
112 posted on 03/11/2002 3:30:47 PM PST by Pagey
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