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Team picks white man mascot to make point
Greeley Tribune ^ | 10 Mar 02 | Julio Ochoa

Posted on 03/10/2002 7:27:34 AM PST by real saxophonist

Team picks white man mascot to make point

 Story By Julio Ochoa

An intramural basketball team at the University of Northern Colorado called "The Fighting Whities" is turning the tables on the Eaton mascot issue.

Led by Solomon Little Owl, director of Native American Student Services at UNC, the team chose a white man as its mascot to raise awareness and understanding of stereotypes that some cultures endure.

"The message is, let's do something that will let people see the other side of what it's like to be a mascot," Little Owl said. "I am really offended by this mascot issue, and I hope the people that support the Eaton mascot will get offended by this."

The players, made up of a mixture of American Indian, Hispanic and caucasian students, wear white jerseys with the picture of a white man in a suit on the front and the slogan "Every thang's gonna be all white!" printed beneath.

"It's not meant to be vicious, it is meant to be humorous," said Ray White, a Mohawk American Indian on the team. "It puts people in our shoes, and then we can say, 'Now you know how it is, and now you can make a judgement.' "

Judging right or wrong is hard when you don't understand how it feels to be stereotyped, White said.

"We are looking for understanding," he said. "We want change, but you can't force change."

American Indians could go through the general assembly or town meetings to try to change mascots, but the same message might not get through, White said.

"We all live in the same community and want the same things, so it is good to be standing in each other's shoes for a while," he said.

Charles Cuny, an Ogalala Lakota and member of the team, said he went to an American Indian Catholic high school with a mascot called the Red Cloud Crusaders, after a famous chief of the Lakota Indians.

The problem with Eaton's mascot is a matter of respect, he said.

"There are certain words that are accepted and certain words that are unacceptable," Cuny said. "Really a mascot is something that you look up to, and on one hand that is nice, but maybe we could go about it another way."

Having a white mascot is a way to make people more aware of American Indian issues, he said.

"We live in a politically correct society, and sometimes indians get overlooked," he said. "There are so few indians who have clout that there are a lot of things that go unsettled."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: mascot
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To: JackFromTexas
Palefaces would be a natural
281 posted on 03/10/2002 2:30:23 PM PST by luvbach1
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
Of course it is.

Tell that to the University of Marquette. They had to change their name about five years back from the Marquette Warriors to the Marquette Eagles.

Although "Eagles" is one of America's symbols of freedom, and I understand that, however, the point of my post is to see the political correctness gone too far.

282 posted on 03/10/2002 2:32:02 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: Jaidyn
Why not just plain old Americans?
283 posted on 03/10/2002 2:32:03 PM PST by luvbach1
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To: all
Everybody needs to read this.

David Yeagley is great!!

284 posted on 03/10/2002 2:33:10 PM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: SauronOfMordor
Could you imagine the NAACP organizing a boycott of South Carolina over the Confederate flag in 1880? The would have been strung up from the nearest trees, and that would have ended the discussion

I'm glad that that's not the case anymore, however we have gone too far in the other direction, and we keep moving that way.

285 posted on 03/10/2002 2:38:22 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: Cable225
Just rushed off this E-mail: Love the name of your new intramural team, the Fighting Whiteys. Please send info on how to order T-shirts, hats, etc. I hope you have great success with this new fund raiser.
286 posted on 03/10/2002 2:39:17 PM PST by luvbach1
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To: real saxophonist
'Now you know how it is, and now you can make a judgement.' "

I like it!!!

Only in America..........if it was a white team calling themselves Mighty Whities, the NAACP would be having the proverbial hissy fit. Thanks to Native Americans, we have our own team! I am humbled and honored.

287 posted on 03/10/2002 2:40:18 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: real saxophonist
All three major colleges in Indiana are (possibly) named after white men.....fighting irish, hoosiers, and boilermakers.
288 posted on 03/10/2002 2:41:15 PM PST by Always Right
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To: SauronOfMordor
Could you imagine the NAACP organizing a boycott of South Carolina over the Confederate flag in 1880? The would have been strung up from the nearest trees, and that would have ended the discussion

I'm glad that that's not the case anymore, however we have gone too far in the other direction, and we keep moving that way.

289 posted on 03/10/2002 2:41:36 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: KneelBeforeZod
"USL's baseball unis look like a potato chip bag. And they sure talked a lot of trash before we stomped their heads in and eliminated them from the CWS a few years ago!"

Weeellll, being an LSU alumnus, I can't rouse a whole lot of sympathy for them. Also, having moved up to the GRATE (not a spelling error) NORTHWEST, I don't follow Louisiana sports much at all. How is LSU baseball faring this year--they used to be pretty good.

290 posted on 03/10/2002 2:55:11 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
This is great. It could become as famous at the internationally acclaimed University of Okoboki, complete with coffee mugs and pencils.
291 posted on 03/10/2002 3:02:23 PM PST by LostTribe
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To: real saxophonist
I wish every team in all of America who has a "racially charged" mascot name would change it to a White American name.

But............We all know what would happen then. Every race including Indians would be screaming to high heaven that we aren't sensitive to diversity.

Bring em on. How about the Alfred Packard team. If we can't beat you will eat you.

292 posted on 03/10/2002 3:18:24 PM PST by ODDITHER
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To: luvbach1;liberalism=failure
You are both correct and my family is an all-American family. My oldest son just got promoted to Staff Sgt. yesterday. (I like to brag). I was kidding and trying to prove a point at the same time. This is an interesting thread. I hope other races, particularly Indians read it and get their acts together.
293 posted on 03/10/2002 3:20:21 PM PST by Jaidyn
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To: ODDITHER
If anyone knows where I can buy the T-shirt and hat...let me know.
294 posted on 03/10/2002 3:21:07 PM PST by CFW
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To: CFW
>If anyone knows where I can buy the T-shirt and hat...let me know.

Me too. I want to give them away for Christmas!

295 posted on 03/10/2002 3:23:28 PM PST by PaulKersey
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To: piasa
...and America's Team...the Dallas Cowboys.........


296 posted on 03/10/2002 3:27:29 PM PST by Clovis_Skeptic
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To: real saxophonist
This is hilarious. I'm so offended. Not. Haven't read the whole thread, hope I'm the first to suggest another team call themselves the Flighting Whities.
297 posted on 03/10/2002 3:28:28 PM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: weegee

298 posted on 03/10/2002 3:29:30 PM PST by Clovis_Skeptic
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To: #3Fan
Excuse me?

As an American of Norwegian/Swedish descent, I am OUTRAGED that the Minnesota Vikings have opted to sully my heritage with such degrading actions as losing four Super Bowls and employing Randy Moss.

I was just going to let it go, but now that I've seen what can be accomplished with a little initiative, I'm going to contact a lawyer tomorrow...

Clearly, the Vikings are deliberately besmirching my Scandinavian heritage.

299 posted on 03/10/2002 3:31:08 PM PST by daler
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To: kaylar
I don't know ... don't go to too many games ... mostly catch them on TV ... Kansas City has always choked when the big one comes ... our beloved Royals are now little more than a farm club for other teams ... sad to see ... and a lot of players on both teams really play their hearts out, too ... we just don't have the money I guess to compete across the board ...
300 posted on 03/10/2002 5:12:50 PM PST by Bobby777
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