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Team picks white man mascot to make point
Greeley Tribune ^ | 10 Mar 02 | Julio Ochoa

Posted on 03/10/2002 7:27:34 AM PST by real saxophonist

Team picks white man mascot to make point

 Story By Julio Ochoa

An intramural basketball team at the University of Northern Colorado called "The Fighting Whities" is turning the tables on the Eaton mascot issue.

Led by Solomon Little Owl, director of Native American Student Services at UNC, the team chose a white man as its mascot to raise awareness and understanding of stereotypes that some cultures endure.

"The message is, let's do something that will let people see the other side of what it's like to be a mascot," Little Owl said. "I am really offended by this mascot issue, and I hope the people that support the Eaton mascot will get offended by this."

The players, made up of a mixture of American Indian, Hispanic and caucasian students, wear white jerseys with the picture of a white man in a suit on the front and the slogan "Every thang's gonna be all white!" printed beneath.

"It's not meant to be vicious, it is meant to be humorous," said Ray White, a Mohawk American Indian on the team. "It puts people in our shoes, and then we can say, 'Now you know how it is, and now you can make a judgement.' "

Judging right or wrong is hard when you don't understand how it feels to be stereotyped, White said.

"We are looking for understanding," he said. "We want change, but you can't force change."

American Indians could go through the general assembly or town meetings to try to change mascots, but the same message might not get through, White said.

"We all live in the same community and want the same things, so it is good to be standing in each other's shoes for a while," he said.

Charles Cuny, an Ogalala Lakota and member of the team, said he went to an American Indian Catholic high school with a mascot called the Red Cloud Crusaders, after a famous chief of the Lakota Indians.

The problem with Eaton's mascot is a matter of respect, he said.

"There are certain words that are accepted and certain words that are unacceptable," Cuny said. "Really a mascot is something that you look up to, and on one hand that is nice, but maybe we could go about it another way."

Having a white mascot is a way to make people more aware of American Indian issues, he said.

"We live in a politically correct society, and sometimes indians get overlooked," he said. "There are so few indians who have clout that there are a lot of things that go unsettled."


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To: DallasMike
You make a good point. These cartoon mascots are caricatures no intended to be realistic representations. this goes well over the heads of the "people of color" so easily offended. I am sure they are not reading these posts, and even if they did would not be dissuaded.
141 posted on 03/10/2002 9:05:10 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: Khepera
If a team comprised of all whites chose such a name there would certainly be an outcry fron the usual suspects.
142 posted on 03/10/2002 9:06:46 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
Razorbacks are pigs
143 posted on 03/10/2002 9:07:48 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: liberalism=failure
Of course it will be racist to root for this team in any way.
I hadn't thought of that. Are we allowed to say,Go Whitey??
144 posted on 03/10/2002 9:08:45 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: Polybius
Chargers are electric but they could be equine
145 posted on 03/10/2002 9:09:42 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: Cable225

That's Ronald Reagan!


146 posted on 03/10/2002 9:10:23 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: luvbach1
Razorbacks are pigs

Hmm. I wonder if somewhere there's a group of snouted Americans who are deeply offended?

147 posted on 03/10/2002 9:10:29 AM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: LJLucido
Isn't honkies the equivalent of N-----s? So that shouldn't fly
149 posted on 03/10/2002 9:11:03 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: real saxophonist
Judging right or wrong is hard when you don't understand how it feels to be stereotyped, White said.

"White mascots" are nothing new. Think Notre Dame's "Fighting Irish" or the much more prevalent Vikings and (Scottish) Highlanders. Personally (as one of Highland/Island descent) I think it right and appropriate that everybody should adopt my ancestors for a noble mascot. (If others aren't up to it, well, maybe they know their worth).

Afta aa: "Wha's like us? Gey few, an they're aa deid!" *\;-)

150 posted on 03/10/2002 9:11:08 AM PST by Eala
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To: kennyo
Excellent double entendre
151 posted on 03/10/2002 9:11:51 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: gjenkins
I really don't get the 'Native American' point. We don't name our sports teams after them because we think think they were lazy drunks.

Exactly. The ones who are offended are too stupid for words.

152 posted on 03/10/2002 9:12:04 AM PST by cidrasm
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To: mille99
As a Whitie myself, I have no problem with this; Doesn't offend me in the least. In fact, I find it rather flattering.
153 posted on 03/10/2002 9:12:48 AM PST by Deltaforceeoo7
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To: Jaidyn
Are we allowed to say,Go Whitey??

Of course not, in order to prove you are sensitive human being who believes in diversity (which is what makes this country great) you will be required to hate this team.

154 posted on 03/10/2002 9:13:25 AM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: redsoxallthewayintwothousand2
Appropriate for a member of the KKK, which of course Byrd was (IS?)
155 posted on 03/10/2002 9:14:13 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: Tigercap
"Sorry to disappoint them...but I am NOT offended. "

Me neither. I was actually surprised to read that the stunt was meant to offend. Kind of arouses pride if you ask me. Boy ain't they goona be p!ssed when the name actually catches on and the only protest they get is when they try to change the team name back to whatever it was before.

156 posted on 03/10/2002 9:16:52 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Deltaforceeoo7
As a Whitie myself, I have no problem with this; Doesn't offend me in the least. In fact, I find it rather flattering.

See that's the problem, you're supposed to feel guilty and ashamed.

BTW I wonder if teams that play the whities will get affirmative action?

The whities will probably have to give the other teams three free throws for every two of theirs or something.

157 posted on 03/10/2002 9:17:42 AM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: Snuffington
They had to choose a silly name to serve their racist purposes, not one that usually enobles like the non-white nicknames
158 posted on 03/10/2002 9:18:15 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: luvbach1
Indian mascots are usually BRAVES so therefore the White mascot should be a MARINE or MINUTE MAN not some wimp in a suit.

Like the old Boston Patriots logo.


159 posted on 03/10/2002 9:18:33 AM PST by Polybius
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