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Team picks white man mascot to make point
Greeley Tribune ^ | 10 Mar 02 | Julio Ochoa

Posted on 03/10/2002 7:27:34 AM PST by real saxophonist

Team picks white man mascot to make point

 Story By Julio Ochoa

An intramural basketball team at the University of Northern Colorado called "The Fighting Whities" is turning the tables on the Eaton mascot issue.

Led by Solomon Little Owl, director of Native American Student Services at UNC, the team chose a white man as its mascot to raise awareness and understanding of stereotypes that some cultures endure.

"The message is, let's do something that will let people see the other side of what it's like to be a mascot," Little Owl said. "I am really offended by this mascot issue, and I hope the people that support the Eaton mascot will get offended by this."

The players, made up of a mixture of American Indian, Hispanic and caucasian students, wear white jerseys with the picture of a white man in a suit on the front and the slogan "Every thang's gonna be all white!" printed beneath.

"It's not meant to be vicious, it is meant to be humorous," said Ray White, a Mohawk American Indian on the team. "It puts people in our shoes, and then we can say, 'Now you know how it is, and now you can make a judgement.' "

Judging right or wrong is hard when you don't understand how it feels to be stereotyped, White said.

"We are looking for understanding," he said. "We want change, but you can't force change."

American Indians could go through the general assembly or town meetings to try to change mascots, but the same message might not get through, White said.

"We all live in the same community and want the same things, so it is good to be standing in each other's shoes for a while," he said.

Charles Cuny, an Ogalala Lakota and member of the team, said he went to an American Indian Catholic high school with a mascot called the Red Cloud Crusaders, after a famous chief of the Lakota Indians.

The problem with Eaton's mascot is a matter of respect, he said.

"There are certain words that are accepted and certain words that are unacceptable," Cuny said. "Really a mascot is something that you look up to, and on one hand that is nice, but maybe we could go about it another way."

Having a white mascot is a way to make people more aware of American Indian issues, he said.

"We live in a politically correct society, and sometimes indians get overlooked," he said. "There are so few indians who have clout that there are a lot of things that go unsettled."


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To: RnMomof7
White men do fight for what they believe in..they do not whine Win !
121 posted on 03/10/2002 8:44:12 AM PST by TightSqueeze
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To: scholar
"The players, made up of a mixture of American Indian, Hispanic and caucasian students, wear white jerseys with the picture of a white man in a SUIT on the front and the slogan 'Every thang's gonna be all white!' printed beneath."

Ohmygawdddd is that HILARIOUS or what!!
I LOVE IT!!!
Mr. Little Owl's one smart bird, for crying out loud.
Maybe one day his team of White Men can face-off against the, "Fightin' Illini"!!

Now can'tcha just imagine the ensueing brawl? :o)

122 posted on 03/10/2002 8:45:45 AM PST by Landru
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
arent razorbacks white guys

Razorbacks are wild boar hogs.


123 posted on 03/10/2002 8:46:21 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: Polybius
This hilarious effort on the part of a "redskin" got me to thinking.....if they are so sincere about wanting people to "feel right" about mascots then we'll have to apply affirmative action to all the NBA and the NFL, to golf, to soccer, etc. This is as it has always been......ludicrous.....and they are exposing it themselves.
124 posted on 03/10/2002 8:46:58 AM PST by goodnesswins
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To: real saxophonist
It's good! Thanks, bloodthirsty savages, we appreciate the recognitions. Perhaps an image of a white U.S. Marine, in full combat gear would make a good mascot. Or an Irish police officer from Long Island. Or maybe some Navahos huffing spray paint in a K-Mart parking lot in Boulder. Wait a minute, those Navahos don't sound so good. But try the other ones, OK?
125 posted on 03/10/2002 8:47:29 AM PST by anton
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To: real saxophonist
My husband wants a tee shirt with the "Fightin Whitey" on it. Any idea who to contact to inundate (freep!) with tee shirt and ball cap orders?
126 posted on 03/10/2002 8:49:29 AM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: real saxophonist
Hey, I love it!

I have a better slogan, When your white your right!

ohhh yahhh ; )

127 posted on 03/10/2002 8:49:58 AM PST by the_rightside
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To: Tall_Texan
Bravo! This might actually catch on. Let's see the Atlanta White Braves in action or perhaps the Washington WhiteSkins. Lets see how stupid we can make people feel that have some kinda Indian heritiage problem. Last time I checked...there are 25 plus states that are named for Indians and nobody was saying a word about that. Same for rivers and towns. Perhaps we just need to be sarcastic and make people look stupid to make this point.
128 posted on 03/10/2002 8:50:39 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: real saxophonist
The players, made up of a mixture of American Indian, Hispanic and caucasian students, wear white jerseys with the picture of a white man in a suit on the front and the slogan "Every thang's gonna be all white!" printed beneath.

Isn't that the Klan's motto?

129 posted on 03/10/2002 8:51:39 AM PST by Howlin
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To: weegee
How about the vikings? How offensive!
130 posted on 03/10/2002 8:52:38 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: real saxophonist
no offense taken :-)

but whatcha wanna bet they can find some whiney campus liberal to be theatrically offended, just to try to make their bogus point, lol.

131 posted on 03/10/2002 8:53:26 AM PST by fnord
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To: anniegetyourgun
Aryans. Now that would really get a rise.
132 posted on 03/10/2002 8:53:43 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: real saxophonist
I had to look to see if this was a piece from The Onion, but alas, it is true. LOL, BIGTIME.
133 posted on 03/10/2002 8:55:31 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: TomGuy
Partial suggestion for The Fighting Whities fight song:

Very good, but sorry that's way too un PC. I think little owl might be offended

It really needs to have more apologetic

Perhaps Something like:

We're the fighting whities
We always try not to win
we're deeply ashamed of the color of our skin

We are the cause of all world oppressions
we should give reparations for our transgressions

We like being scapegoated
for every failure known to man
So sorry, that we were ever included in Go..., er, nature's plan

We're the fighting whities
So sorry to offend
we promise never to harm your self esteem again

lose on! fighting whities, lose on!

134 posted on 03/10/2002 8:55:48 AM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: #3Fan
It does point out the asininity of the protest against nicknames (they're not always mascots) that invariably stress a trait positive to an athletic tem; i.e., strength, indomitablity, and the like.
135 posted on 03/10/2002 8:58:11 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: uncbob
Indian mascots are usually BRAVES so therefore the White mascot should be a MARINE or MINUTE MAN not some wimp in a suit But that would be fair and analogous and thus not serve their purpose, which was ridicule. As it is, even the dated white man in a suit drawing is not as demeaning as they hoped it would be.
136 posted on 03/10/2002 9:01:07 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Tennessee Volunteers... not that all volunteers are white, but the volunteer mascot is a white male (the coonskin cap guy. He also carries a rifle).

Vanderbilt commodore is white, but there is always that question about gender.

The old Boston/New England Patriot on the side of the helmet was white, but I think he was gay. That crouching wink always bothered me.

137 posted on 03/10/2002 9:02:19 AM PST by TN4Liberty
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To: rdb3
So this has been done before but nobody noticed
138 posted on 03/10/2002 9:02:27 AM PST by luvbach1
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To: real saxophonist
Colleges react to offensive mascots

Worse than playing with the Bloodthirsty Irishmen

139 posted on 03/10/2002 9:02:50 AM PST by real saxophonist
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